Re: GEEK GRRL! Episode 4

"Mel" <rrc...@hotmail.com> writes:

> "Neil Franklin" <nei...@franklin.ch.remove> wrote in message
> news:6un...@chonsp.franklin.ch...
> > "Mel" <rrc...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > Take the money... ALWAYS take the money... this is the wisdom that
> Netscape
> > > didn't heed when Microsoft came calling...
> > It is the "wisdom" Netscape was intelligent enough to avoid.
>
> well they passed up a lot of money... and then Netscape the company folded
> and faded out anyway...

Folded? Funny, they are still selling their server software (selling
that was allways their business model, the browsers were just to set
up the market for servers).

Faded away, only in the consumer/client market. In servers they are
still strong.


> > Of course MS would have then taken the Windows majority and made their
> > web incompatible with NSes and then killed them on all other platforms.
>
> actually Microsoft supports open standards better than many others... such
> as Netscape and Sun... :-)

Perhaps today with IE5 and IE6, I remember IE3 and IE4 as being pigs
in that respect.


> The browser does not define HTML standards... in fact Netscape's
> non-standard extensions were/are divisive when it comes to designing web
> sites...

So were MSes extensions in IE3 and IE4. Today they (particularly those
implemented in NS4.5) are simply regarded as part of the standard by
far too many website designers.


> > Thanks to NS not entering the deal, they still have an small Windows
> > presence with those users who do not want IE, and have only lost part
>
> well the browser tug-of-war has been won by Microsoft... but you are
> right... sufficient Netscape browsers are used to cause web site designers
> compatibility headaches...

.. if they want to use either the MS extensions or newer features
like CSS. I have no such trouble with my simple site.


> I'm all for competition with the proviso that
> standards are adhered to... Netscape still does not support CSS like IE
> does...

NS6 and NS6.1, and of course Mozilla (the open source NS), do support
CSS. I suspect 6.1 to kill off NS4.5/4.6/4.7 some time. Which would be
good, as those were the worst NSes.


> > > sometimes "principles" aren't worth a damn to anyone...
> > And sometimes principles, and the self respect coming from holding
> > them, are worth more than money.
>
> I take the money every time... principles don't buy you bread... money
> does...

I doubt Andreesen has problems buying bread.


> > > otherwise, if money is not your concern, you can instead make free open
> > > source software for Linux..
> > Which is a lot more sensible.
>
> I like Linux... I think it is going to see some explosive growth over the 5
> years... still trying to learn it myself... and it's not plain sailing...
> :-(

Yup. I have been using Linux since about 6 years now. 100% MS-free
since 2.5 years. It feels ggggoooooooodddddd.


--
Neil Franklin, nei...@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/
Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer
- Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery

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