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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 21 Sep 2003.
Re: Updated Hollywood figlet font

Re: Updated Hollywood figlet font

lgbeard enlightented me with this :
>>Here's an updated version of the hollywood.flf figfont.

> It is by far a lot smoother to read. Put into Jave and tried it.
> here is the result (___ not lined up. And there is a string error
> at about 58 or 59, and also not being able to continue to the second 
> line. String error continues with it. I like your version better not
> so heavy.
> 
> 
> 
>              .'``.                 .'            .'
>            .'   ._)              .'          --.'--
>        . .'       O  ____      .'  ____      .'
>        .`---,   .' .'    )   .'  .'    )   .'
>      .'       .' .'    .'  .'  .(___..'  .'
> (_.'       (__(____.(__(__(________(__
>                    .'
>            ,     .'
>          (____.'
> 
> 
> lgbeard

Thats odd.
My copy in JavE produces this :


             .'``.                .'          .'
           .'   ._)             .'        --.'--
       . .'       O  ____     .' ____     .'
       .`---,   .' .'    )  .' .'    )  .'
     .'       .' .'    .' .' .(___..' .'
(_.'        (__(____.(__(__(________(__
                   .'
           ,     .'
          (____.'


When you say theres a string error at about 58 or 59 ..
.. what do you mean ?

The linenumber ?
The characternumber ? (in which case it would be helpful
if you could tell me the character)

I too like that my version is smoother .. thats why i did it.
Sometimes a style of drawing is a personal opinion
  .. some may like it one way and some another.
But here I felt the original style to be very rough and unnatural.

I could also have choosen to make

     ,'                            .'
   ,'   lines , instead of my    .'  lines, but I tend to prefer
,'                            .'

the .' lines because even though the ,' lines define the line better,
the comma char can in some fonts be very heavy or have curves that
disrupt the line slightly.
Mostly I like .' lines because I can slant them differently and still
use the same line style. The ,' lines only go from left to right,
forcing me to break the symmetry if i make a line go from right to
left.



Hmm ... I was didling a bit and found that " iy iy il ij" as input
produces this :


                                                       .'
                                                     .'
             O               O                  O  .'     O        O
           .' .'    .      .'    .'    .      .' .'     .'       .'
         .' .'    .'     .'    .'    .'     .' .'     .'       .'
        (__(____.(__    (__   (____.(__    (__(__    (__     .(__
              .'                 .'                        .'
      .     .'           .     .'                        .'
     (____.'            (____.'                      (_.'


The original version 1 does this too.
It seems clear to me that the y and j's do not try to cross the
left boundary of the i when they are joined , but why does this
not happen the first time ?
Is it a font error or is it a bug in figlet or perhaps just JavE's
implementation ?


Hmm .. Just got this result of the polish figlet at :
http://www.ascii.art.pl/figlet.php

                                                      /'
                                                    /'
             O                O                O  /'      O   O
           /' /'    /       /' /'    /       /' /'      /'  /'
         /' /'    /'      /' /'    /'      /' /'      /'  /'
        (__(___,/(__     (__(___,/(__     (__(__     (__/(__
              /'               /'                     /'
      /     /'         /     /'                     /'
     (___,/'          (___,/'                   (,/'


As mentioned JavE produces this :


                                                       /'
                                                     /'
             O               O                  O  /'     O        O
           /' /'    /      /'    /'    /      /' /'     /'       /'
         /' /'    /'     /'    /'    /'     /' /'     /'       /'
        (__(___,/(__    (__   (___,/(__    (__(__    (__     /(__
              /'                 /'                        /'
      /     /'           /     /'                        /'
     (___,/'            (___,/'                      (,/'


It may very well be a bug in JavE

The online figlet however is still stupid enough to produce :

      O
    /'    /'    /
  /'    /'    /'
(__   (___,/(__
          /'
  /     /'
(___,/'

when given the input "iy"
It does not understand that when it cannot push the y beyond
the borders of the screen it errors in the joining of the two
characters and must therefore move the i to match.

JavE makes the same mistake .. it's internal treatment of
borders might have something to do with this.


BTW .. which do you like better ? :


                   .-.
             O   .' .'
           .' -.'--'
         .'  .'
        (__.(_____
         .'
       .'
     .'

or



                   .-.
             o   .' .'
           .' -.'--'
         .'  .'
        (__.(_____
         .'
       .'
     .'


(the size of the dot on the i is what separates the two)

Sincerely
CeeJay :)

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