Re: GEEK GRRL! Episode 4

"Mel" <rrc...@hotmail.com> writes:

> "CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> wrote in message
> news:3be06440$0$218$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> > > actually Microsoft supports open standards better than many others...
> such
> > > as Netscape and Sun... :-)
> > Since when ?  This statement is soo seriouly wrong you will have to prove
> it!
> > Microsoft usually does'nt give a shit about current standards and tried to
> enforce their
> > own on people.
>
> nope. Microsoft even adheres to standards in their Active Directory
> (LDAP)...

Sort of. Never mention MS LDAP near my office colleague, at least not
if you value your safety.


> > Remember when they declared Ascii-art dead since they "innovated" the
> great new technology
> > called HTMLmail (which enabled you to recieve more virus's and bloat
> faster than ever
> > before.. mnn real "progress" )

Erm. HTML mail was one of NSes crimes. MS just managed to make an more
awfull bloated HTML generator, and add virus execution, and spread it
further. That made people forget NSes one.

How many Sircams do you want to get today?


> > Are we still creating ascii-art ? .. Damn right we are !
>
> It's great... it's better than HTML mail... much better! :-)

Sure. Particularly if you like me have an non-HTML mailer and newsreader.


> > > > Why do you think no PC manufacturer offers preinstalled dual-boot
> > > > Windows + Linux? Its forbidden in the Windows OEM license.
> > > Yeah... I agree here... Microsoft should not have the power to restrict
> what
> > > software gets loaded...
> > The courts have already ruled that .. strangely nothing seems to have been
> done about
> > forcing MS to actually obey the rulings ..

The court has so far ruled:

1 MS has hindered competition (the so called Findings of Fact ruling)
2 They did this in a way that violated the Sherman Act, i.e. using an
  monopoly to gain further monopolies
3 Ruled that MS should be cut up

MS then appealed the rulings.

1 and 2 have been upheld unconditionally (= final unless appealed to
the Supreme Court), while 3 has been sent back to the courts to
re-evaluate, because the judge _may_ have been party. So MS is at
present only 2/3 convicted.

Action against MS will only start when a ruling on 3 is finalised.


> > You can however hack the install files to make it possible .. but how many
> normal users
> > would/could do this ?

Anyone who thinks the MS version sucks? Just wait until the first MSN
Messenger virus, or even worm, apprears.


> I don't have a problem with Microsoft competing by adding features to their
> OS... I do have a problem with MS dictating terms to their distribution
> channel as to what they may bundle or not bundle...

Jup. That is the real crime. (Miss-)Using an monopoly to hinder
competitors and take over other markets. And for doing that they have
been declared guilty. Now it is just up to getting tough on them.


--
Neil Franklin, nei...@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/
Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer
- Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery

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