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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 29 Nov 2004.
Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

From ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> · alt.ascii-art · 29 Nov 2004 06:02 · View full thread · report
Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> _.-In alt.ascii-art, ABCGi wrote the following -._
> 
>>To be honest I would of found it objectional but would not of posted 
>>about it.
> 
> Thats what I though.
> 
>>Did you know that in recent official govt stats in NSW, Australia only 
>>0.4% of women who are sexually assaulted will have the perpetrator(s) 
>>convicted? 
> 
> That is a bit missleading.  Less than 0.4% of pot smokers in America
> are convicted.  Their are key stats missing from that number to give
> it meaining.   Like what percentage of Au women actually file
> charges.  The info you provided says 
> 
>> official govt stats .. only .. 0.4% of women who are sexually
>> assaulted .. perpetrator(s) convicted
> 
> Which is not at all the same as:
>     Did you know that in recent official govt stats in NSW, Australia
>     only 0.4% of sexual assault charges result in conviction?
> 
> Normally the biggest issue in dealing with domestic violance (which
> was the topic before sexual assault) is getting people to report it.
> The second biggest problem is getting the abused person to file
> charges.
> 
>>But otherwise you make some good points.
> 
> Danka
> 
> Educating men on not being assholes doesn't fix that.  Educating
> victems on how to stop being victems does fix that.  Twenty minute

True but we should be careful not to blame the victim, and as you see 
below, we need to make it worthwhile for them to goto court and do 
something about it.

> waiting periods for women to buy fire arms also help. :)

To avoid being misleading I can go into further detail, however there is 
no escaping that our system(s) is/are doing a horrible job of protecting 
women.

The issue for sexual assault against women, and this is the same in the 
UK (their rate is about 5% from stats a few years back), I imagine it is 
a similar problem in the states, is the following;

About 2.5% of those that go to court can expect a conviction (in 
Australia). At best 10% of those that accuse men of sexual assault are 
actually lying. This leaves at least 80% of offenders getting off. In 
return the woman has to go through a very unfriendly process, straight 
after being violated, and then in court has her entire sexual history 
brought into disrepute whereas the accused can of committed and been 
convicted of rape 5 times before, and this is *not* admissible.

etc etc probably heard all this before...

Due to many such reasons only 20% of assaulted women will make it to 
court. Even if you only counted the 20% that made it to court the 
conviction rate in NSW, Australia is still only 2.5%!!!

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ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
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