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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 5 Jan 2000.
Re: So, You Want To Make Text Art?

Re: So, You Want To Make Text Art?

JRO, I don't know how anyone emails you, I can't get your email to work...it
always comes back ;(

Pammie


JRO <ogl...@mail.fullnet.net-remove> wrote in message
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>
> Przemyslaw Brojewski <bro...@kis.p.lodz.pl> wrote in message
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>
> > This time you've gone a little bit to far.
>
> Nah, I have been pretty careful and polite, not to go too far. As a pal
> told me about this thread: "Gee, you sure argue nicer than I would.
> You are a saint, you know."
>
>
>
> >I prefer to be fucked by a person of my choice, thank you.
>
> That was what is commonly known as an insult, not an offer. I'm sure
> you were quite flattered by it, but maybe you ought to brush up on
> colloquial American English, before getting too excited.
>
>
>
> >On the other hand, you don't think.
> > It's high time you started thinking, boy. Or in other words:
> > think what you write, not the other way round.
>
> Good advice, here. You are absolutely correct, in many
> respects. Thanks.
>
>
>
> > Now you've really pissed my off with an attitude like this. Yours
"fuck'em"
> > brought me here, And now it evolved to "it looks ok in my software,
> > and if someone complains -- fuck'em". Let's see how many people in this
> > newsgroup you fuck.
> >
> > I had a look at 118 articles posted to this group.
> > The oldest was dated      30 Dec 1999 22:19:39 +0000
> > and the latest was from   04 Jan 2000 15:24:06 GMT
> > no more articles were available on the newsserver I use.
> > The articles were posted by 40 distinct people.
> > Here's the boring chart how many of them used what software:
> >
> >      12 Microsoft Outlook Express
> >      11 Mozilla
> >       5 Forte Free Agent
> >       4 Forte Agent
> >       2 tin
> >       1 postit.pl
> >       1 fart
> >       1 Turnpike
> >       1 Supernews
> >       1 MicroPlanet Gravity
> >       1 MT-NewsWatcher
> >       1 Deja.com
> >
> > thiese figures add up to 41 because some of them use more than one
> > software package to read and post news.
> > 12 people is indeed the largest group of useres in this newsgroup,
> > but it's less then one-third of those who actively post. It's about
> > 29%. I wouldn't call it 95% 90% 88% or whatever you might come up with.
> > I wouldn't call it "most all". It's not any kind of "most". The thruth
is,
> > boy, that most people here use something other than "the dreaded OE5".
> > some news servers wrap posts wider than 80 characters, because of
> > historically evolved kind of standard. You probably know this, but don't
> > give a shit. Anyway I drifted off the point.
> > The point is that writing any post with lines longer than 80 characters
> > minus some space for quoting is against netiqette. But you did not
> > read netiquette. It is, after all, a kind of boring FAQ, and you don't
> > read boring FAQs. And even if you have read them, you act against them.
> > And if you like so much "Paradise Lost" than stop making guestimates,
> > you're not good enough at it.
> >
> >
> > brojek.
>
> Checking posts is a poor method, for investigating this newsgroup's
> "readership". This little newsgroup is actually quite well read.
> Most of the "readers" do not post, however. Most of them just read
> aaa, to see ascii pictures. Only a few make requests, even. The only
> way to learn about this, is to get a lot of email from them. I suggest
> you read my tutorials, and start posting a lot of ascii. People will
> eventually start to email you, and you can ask them what newsreader
> they are using, and discover what the real stats are like. That's
> about the only real way you are going to get any good stats on what
> they are using to read aaa with. Researching Dejanoose is not going
> to yield those answers, although I commend you for trying.
>
> The majority of folks I hear from, use OutlookExpress, and/or FreeAgent.
> I believe most readers use OE 5, both from the number of people who
> have mentioned this to me, and the fact that (like it or not), most
> people run a Windows-based OS, and use Internet Explorer. OE comes
> as part of that package.
>
> This being an "art" newsgroup; no, I don't give a shit about what
> may wrap a little. Sometimes pictures are larger than 80 characters.
> Generally not, but they do come out that way, on occasion. As I said,
> if the occasional post does wrap for someone, then they may skip it
> over, edit it themselves, or email me for a copy of it in some other
> format that doesn't wrap. I have sent a few .txt files to folks, for
> that purpose, and can only remember two occasions when someone told
> me a pix wrapped. I emailed it to them, both times, and they were
> happy.
>
> Actually, it's a rat's ankle deal that I can't manage to post anything
> wider than 132 characters; I would prefer more like 250. Not often,
> but sometimes. I did a "poster" size ascii, several months ago. Old
> solid-style junk. I gave up on it, half finished. There wasn't much
> I could do with the thing, you see. I certainly couldn't post it,
> on usenet, except in some .gif-coverted form.
>
> As to "netiqette"; forget that. It sucks. "Ettiquete" is much better.
> In either event, yours suffers somewhat, but understanably so. You're
> probably 15, and you just want to participate.
>
> Do you need assistance, with ascii and your Swedish keyboard? Ilmari
> Karonen just posted this:
>
>  !"#$%&'()*+,-./  You shouldn't use any foreign characters in your
> 0123456789:;<=>?  art, only those in the chart on the left. If you
> @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO  have an ordinary American keyboard, there should
> PQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_  be no others visible on the keys, so you have no
> `abcdefghijklmno  need to worry. However, if your keyboard has any
> pqrstuvwxyz{|}~   other characters be careful not to use them.
>
>
> Here's a shorter version, by Jan-Erik Finnberg:
>
> Please use only the letters A-Z, in small or
> capital case, numbers 0-9 and the following
> characters when creating ASCII-art:
>
>  ! " # $ % & ' (
>  ) * + , - . / :
>  ; < = > ? @ [ \
>  ] ^ _ ` { | } ~
>
>     I added the line about "case", just in case someone noticed
> that, and decided to flame him for it.
>
>     Or, there is Lizard's clever chart, which lets you know if
> you are using a mono-spaced font, and shows you all the right
> characters to use, at the same time. It is also quite sweet,
> since she took Veronika's "warning" out of it :
>
>        ======================================
>        }       ASCII Character Chart        {
>        ======================================
>        }| This chart should be symmetrical.|{
>        }|  If it isn't, change your font   |{
>        }| til the i's and the m's line up. |{
>        }|                                  |{
>        }| iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |{
>        }| mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |{
>        }|                                  |{
>        }|  SP   !   "   #   $   %   &   '  |{
>        }|   (   )   *   +   ,   -   .   /  |{
>        }|   0   1   2   3   4   5   6   7  |{
>        }|   8   9   :   ;   <   =   >   ?  |{
>        }|   @   A   B   C   D   E   F   G  |{
>        }|   H   I   J   K   L   M   N   O  |{
>        }|   P   Q   R   S   T   U   V   W  |{
>        }|   X   Y   Z   [   \   ]   ^   _  |{
>        }|   `   a   b   c   d   e   f   g  |{
>        }|   h   i   j   k   l   m   n   o  |{
>        }|   p   q   r   s   t   u   v   w  |{
>        }|   x   y   z   {   |   }   ~      |{
>        }|                                  |{
>        }|      SP stands for Space bar     |{
>        }|                                  |{
>        }|    No, no, no, you MUSTN'T use   |{
>        }|  ones that are not on the chart  |{
>        }|   if you are going to post your  |{
>        }|        creations in the          |{
>        }|     newsgroup alt.ascii-art!     |{
>        }|                                  |{
>        ======================================
>
>
>     I doubt you really need this information, but I'm giving
> it to you, just in case. I don't blame you for wanting to jump
> in - this is the only argument going. The real point here, though,
> is not about foriegn language keyboards, or really about my choice
> to deliberately leave out an ascii chart. It's really about being
> polite to people; showing a little "ettiquete". Veronica has none.
> I don't read or try to annoy or embarrass her on her threads; she
> waits for an opportunity to do this to everyone who posts to AAA,
> new and old alike.
>
>     Thanks for the advice on thinking. I'm sure if I had been, I
> would have ignored Veronica, in the first place.
>
> Be good,
>   JRO
> oglesbee@
>      mail.fullnet.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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