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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 15 Apr 2001.
Re: Surfimage created using Jave 0.9 .. and yet more ideas

Re: Surfimage created using Jave 0.9 .. and yet more ideas

Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen wrote:
> 
> I created this with it : [snip]

Hey, looks cool.

> The sail even has a small Jave logo on it.

:-)

> I like the 0.9 beta.
> The features I desire the most in the next version are good circles, the
> "plastic bag trick" and perhaps dithering.
> Jep .. I came up with a new idea ..
> 
> Dithering:
> ...

Good news: the "plastic bag trick" is already finished and will be
included in the next release. You can have a look at a screenshot:
  http://www.jave.de/preview/pb91.gif

Dithering is a good idea and I will think about it. I know lots of
algorithms for bitmap images but one has to adapt them to Ascii art.

Good circles... Well, I have tried to use the line algorithm (for Bezier
curves - but that is similar to drawing ellipses). It seems to work
quite ok for big curves, but not for smaller oes. Here are some
examples:

           +              |          |          |          |          |
         _.|              |          /          /          |          |
....---'/                /          /          |           /          |
                        /           /          /          |           /
                   ._..'           /           /          /          |
            .__...'               /           |           |          |
---------.-'                     /            /           /          /
                              ..'            |           |           /
                          .-.'               /           /          /
                      .-.'                 ./           |          |
                 .-.-'                    /             /          /
----------'''_.-'                      ..'             /           /
                                      /               /           /
                                  .-.'               /           |
                              _.-'                 .'            /
                        __.-''                   ./             /
             ____...--''                      .-'              /
--------'''''                              ..'               .'
                                        .-'                 /
                                    .-.'                  ./
                                 .-'                    .'
                           __..-'                     .'
                 ____..--''                       .-.'
....---------''''                               .'
                                           .-.-'
                                       _.-'
                                   _.-'
                            __..-''
                ____...---''
------------''''
So there is still alot of work to be done for better circles...

> And the ability to define your own patterns for the gradient could be nice :
> You could do this :
> 
> 888888888
> OOOOOOOOO
> ooooooooo
> :::::::::
> .........
> 
> .........
> :::::::::
> ooooooooo
> OOOOOOOOO
> 888888888

Well, that can be done by using "8Oo:. .:oO8" as gradient.

> Ability to rotate your elipses (possibly by holding down a button while
> drawing it .. can anyone remember how Deluxe Paint used to do this ?)

Have a look at the curves above - as soon as they look fine ellipse
rotation is not a problem any longer.

> Ability to change the center of drawing for elipses (by holding down a button
> ?) to be like when drawing a square.

I have written that down to my list for future improvments.

> Different mousepointer when outside the drawing area .. its hard to see where
> your "+" pointer is when it's in the grey

Already recognized that - will be fixed soon.

> A "quick" button to set Java into notepad/Textpad mode.. where it would
> perform just like a normal texteditor .. possibly with the same style of
> selection as Jave has

Hm, would it be alright to add an option for the text-tool to work like
in normal texteditors?

> I miss the feel that Textpad (with block select mode on) has .. Textpad is
> still my favourite asciieditor.

> .. had more idea but forgot them.

Feel free to tell me all of them.
 
> P.S. the field the shows author in the pattern libray could be a little longer
> .. It can't show CeeJay .. I can only fit CJ

Will be fixed.

At the moment I am working on (almost) unlimited undo/redo. As soon as
it seems to work fine I will release the next version of Jave. But I
will not have much time during the next weeks, so it may take a while.

Markus

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