Re: Rude folks, indeed.....

Jonathon..I coulda swore you helped me on a tuesday :)

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JRO <ogl...@mail.fullnet.net-remove> wrote in message
news:374fbe76.0@206.103.97.91...
> Hey folks,
>
>     I recently got some invites in the e-type mail to
> "chat" on IRC. I used to use that program some, back when
> my sister and her husband were stationed in Korea. It
> were cheaper than the telephone, ect.. Anyways,
> I have turned on IRC a few times over the last couple of
> weeks. They have all these "color" channels, now. They
> make popups (those things are ascii or extended-character
> pix that "play" on IRC, which are internet relay chat).
>
> Some of those folks are pretty nice. They got me updates
> to that chat program I was usin', and sent me this text-
> player thing that will let you select an ascii text play
> on IRC. They even sent me this tiny program that "colors"
> ascii for use on IRC (it makes a mess of the pix, with color
> codes, ect.).
>
> I realize most of you know about this stuff, but some don't,
> so I alreddy 'splained it.
>
> A lot of them folks on IRC is polite... although I will add
> that many don't care for my risque' cartoons, and you
> can't hardly play a strip, on account of it are too long
> for them (ever heared of anythin' so silly? Made me feel
> like I was submittin' real cartoons to some magazine editor,
> tellin' me ta "Make it shorter". Ridiculocust. Who wouldn't
> want to read a 1,700-line cartoon by me? And what else haff
> they got to do, anyways?). Anyway, you cain't stay in SOME
> of them color or rainbow channels fer long, because sumbody
> will start playin' a pix with no credits, or have THIER OWN
> "credits". For instance, I thought Joan made this:
>
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>        |  L  |
>        |__|__|
>         | | |
>         |_|_|
>  jgs   _|_|_|_
>       (___|___)
>
> ... which I just now copied out of that pix of all four kids.
> Well, it turns out I were wrong; Joan didn't make that. Some
> broad who calls hersel'f "maryemd" made that pix. 'Cept she
> added a little hat, and a dog of Joan's but isn't, becuze
> "maryemd" has "made" it. Including IRC-color, of course.
>
> This broad even keeps a web page, which I ain't seen. You kin
> imagine what is on that.
>
> Haley-Jane must also be confused, becuz she didn't make this 'un:
>
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>                  ( ` ')  ) [VVVVV]
>                 (_(_.~~~'   \|_|/   hjw
>                             [XXX]
>                             `"""'
> Sumbody else has, although their version is in color. I think it pretty
> rude of HJW to try foolin' us all, by postin' pix that she ain't made.
>
> -=Helicopter=-
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>
> I just reposted that helio-chopter, on account of I like it. It ain't
> got nutthin' to do with this here e-type newsgroup post. Anyway, Haley
> prob'ly didn't make it, either. Like enuff, it were made by sum guy
> named "Cybergeek", or "Chatdick". Who knows? Maybe Mad Dog really made
> it.
>
> Stop in on the ChatNet IRC network, if you have an IRC program, and have
> the stomach. Or several others.... you can find them yourself, if you
> know anything about "chat". There seem to be several places to find the
> aktual "are-teests" of many of these pix, that peeple like Haley-Jane
> claims SHE made... What a wench.
>
> Doan git me wrong... There is some nice folks out there, who do color
> pix copied from this newsgroup, or any number of websites. I even git
> email from IRC-enthusiasts, who ask fer a pix or two, or haff a
> ree-quest. I doan mind, at all. Sometimes I like makin' them a pix.
> Usual, I don't, because I make cartoons... or try to... Hell, I do,
> and screw you if you don't like 'em. But I have done a few e-type
> mail requests.... more than I like to admit to. Some of you answer
> a LOT of IRC-related requests. I'm sure most of your correspondents
> are thrilled to leave your pix alone when they color them...
>
> We been through all this afore. Y'all know that some of my views
concernin'
> credits is slightly different. Mostly in the ree-spect that I wouldn't ask
> folks to keep initials on an e-type mail signature pic; who wants somebody
> else's name on their e-comms? But that's my deal, and I don't make a lot
> of signasutures.
>
> Otherwise, I think folks ought to git credit fer thier pix. It's about all
> you're going to git, anyway -- s'not like you make tons of money for
typing
> a picture. Then along comes some yahoo, who copies your little pic, and
> colors it, and plays it on IRC, and sends it around to lots of other folks
> on IRC, and from there it ends up ah goin' who knows where, and all the
while,
> they claim, "I made this". Yah.... sure.
>
> Consider this. My brother had a collector's coloring book published. I'm
> sure there were people who actually colored it. Did that make them the
> artists of the artwork?... Hardly.
>
> You IRC people reading this; Krogg done related the three levels of
etiquette
> on this here issue:
>
> Level 1 --- including author's credit on the pix; most polite approach.
>
> Level 2 --- not including author's credit on the pix; less polite
approach.
>
> Level 3 --- claiming you did the pix yourself; the fuck-you approach.
>
> Now, if you leave the author's name off of the work, then I could maybe
> accept that, myself... on occasion. If you go around claiming the pic
> as your own, saying YOU made it, or putting your name on the pix, then
> you've obviously adopted Level 3.... The only real reason you have for
> not crediting the real author on your popped-thing, is because you want
> to tell people that "I made it". And you do, and you know who you are.
>
> Well, you can color a coloring book, but that don't mean you "made" the
> pictures. A coloring book frequently has the artists' names somewhere
> on it; or at least they got paid for drawing it.
>
> Sure... I know. I alreddy heared 'splantions about how, "Well, we do what
> we want ON our channel". Yah. Well, that's not what you do, is it? Most
> of you ripper-folks send out the colored pix you've copied, and they end
up
> all over the place. I know that the audience on IRC is somewhat limited,
but
> that's no excuse. The kind of people I have "chatted" at are well aware
> of the eatiquet that goes with copying pix --- they even read this
newsgroup.
> They don't post, but they do read. They can tell you all about Joan's
sprained
> wrist, Sara gettin' her head akcidentally shaved inna combine, Martin's
failure
> to pass elementry school, Krogg's hemmorhoids, and my... well, I'll keep
that
> one to myself, if'n you doan mind.
>
>     You decent color-folk on IRC don't get huffed, now. I ain't tokkin'
> about you.
>
>     But I am talking about you people who steal pix, and claim they's
yours.
> They're not, and I find you irritating. And you smart-ass me, which is
also
> irritating, on account of you fuckers cain't type fast enough to even
carry
> on a conversation. And your 'splanations is all sorry ones...
>
>     Go into one of them color-ascie-ripoff channels and use your name, and
> they'll know who you are. I've went onto channels where they stopped
playing
> pix, dead. They knew who I was, and waited to see if I would go. When I
didn't,
> they would un-connect me from their channel. Wow... like I was heartbroken
over
> it. Of course, some would do that if I told them to get a fucking life, or
> played "The Diagnosis" (edited for IRC, but still in B+W.... go look it up
on
> my web page, if you have to know. I just changed the caption to read
"chatrooms"
> instead of "websites").
>
>     Enough of being silly... for a second. Most of the regulars here are
proud of
> thier text-pictures. That's why they make posts to this newsgroup, and
post web
> pages. Nobody minds sharing thier pictures, but nobody likes seeing people
try
> to "claim" them, either. The only reward you get for making text-pix, is
the
> response you get from the people who see it; there is no compensation....
>
>                         \__/           \__/
>                         (__)       (\  (__)
>                     / .//()\\       \\//()\\ \
>    "Look at the Boss   \\__//        \/\__// "Yes, but I suggest we stay
>     lie; he's making    ||||           ||\\   off his thread, Xvtlt. You
>     thousands off of    ||||           ||//     remember what happened,
>      this drivel!"     (_)(_)         (_)_)           last time."
>
>     .... other than reposts and e-type mail. If folks want to copy it and
use
> it somewhere, or color it and play it on IRC, then that's flattering. Not
so,
> however, when it's been ripped by somebody who claims they "made" it, just
> because they added color. Seeing your pix ripped like that, makes one want
> to keep it to themselves. It doesn't matter if it's cut+pasted portions of
an
> ascii; that kid up above was still made by somebody, and that somebody
might
> want people to know who did it. Copying a character out of a picture is
still
> copying,...
>                \__/ /)          \__/
>                (oo)//        /) (oo) \
>           /  .//~~ /         \\//~~\\ "Well, me and the Boss was
> "Have we been \\__/           \/\__/\\ pretty "ripped", about an
> ripped, Dtlu?" //\\             ||||(/       hour ago..."
>               // //             ||||
>              (_)(_)            (_)(_)
>
> ... and it sure spoils the fun in making and posting any asskey.
>
>     Which makes me think of something else. Why do you folks who do it,
> do it? I'd make my own. Then you can actually claim it, for real. If
> you "mirc-artists" are so hot, why don't you post here? Drop me a line,
> if you have trouble getting started, or just about anyone else; they'd
> be happy to help you... except for Veronica, maybe, who would probably
> send you the same kind of answer you will get from me, on Tuesdays.
> So, maybe you better not write me, on Tuesday. Any other time, and I'd
> probably help you.
>
>     I can promise you it's a lot more fun to make your own pix, than
> steal someone else's. It's not very hard, either. Then when you say
> you "made" a popper (even if it's amyl nitrate), it will really be
> true. Who knows? You might even make some good asskey. Maybe somebody
> will even rip it off, and say they did it. You'll have joined the
> big leagues, then.
>
>                             \__/         \__/
>                             (oo)         (oo)
>                         / .//~~\\      .//~~\\ \
>          "Time to split,   \\__//       \\__// "Affirmative. This is
>               Dtlu."        //\\         //\\    getting dull."
>                           .// //       .// //
>                          (_) (_)      (_) (_)
>
>     Or you might just quit being a colored rip-off. It's not hard
> to put in a set of initials; you can even add "colored" by whoever,
> to claim your own IRC-type credit. It would keep you friendly with the
> people who make the pictures you like to use, and it might even keep
> you from having problems with them.
>
>     Oh well.... I need a drink.
>
>
>           JRO
> oglesbee@
>         mail.fullnet.net
>
>
>
>
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