Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 4 Aug 1998.
Not The Flamenco but a dancer
alt.ascii-art
· 25 messages · 4 Aug 1998 - 11 Aug 1998
The discussion about flamenco dancer is going to be alive.
So, i decided to create and post yet another dancer graphic.
I have no doubt it is not flamenco, it is not the Dark Side
of the Sun.
Picture is more realistic but unfortunately it is mono-ascii. It
should be visible only when background is significantly darker then
foreground. The graphic is (personally, for me) an exercise in ascii
gradients painting. Please, let me know is the effect visible on your
system/viewer/newsreader and do you accept such mono pictures.
Regards,
Staszek
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Stanislaw Ciszewski wrote: > > aaaa, > `a, ]WKXXX2X_ > ?4a, )|71lllll) > '''"?ba . iia|9|||= . . . > "4BL_ "=++==:...a . > \oon_, , .:+aa|.:::iQlaa .._. > "Ili+==\'=::~:.:..!..._!'. ..====/<a;=.___ > . . . --=%=/--._-_++..."+~......=~-_= - ------~~<(__s, > . . .+==,. ...... ..= .._,. ."""?\__ > . . . ...=+=+=+==..... ....=+.+"'....+ ~ - > . . .. ..++=+_+::=*=... . ..=*.:+.......... . > . . . ....+...+-:+==:=*=.... . ....*==+=+=+... . > . .+ .. .|-:||*+==+=*= ... . .......=*==:::*... .. . > . . .. ..-:+;;=*+|=+=='...... . .. ....=+=::**... . . > . . +..-w:;==**+=+==:. . .... ..........:=|*::: . . > ... .....-:::;==||=+==:.... . . .............`::.:: . > . . . .. +...-*::=:+++===:. ...... . . ..... . . :;. ... . > . . ..:::.*:;=+;===+'. ........... . ..... . . `::: . ... > . +.::::***;+:;==+' . ....=a=... . . .... . ...::. > . . .::::||:.+:=;: .. ..=;a==;;.. .. .. . ....:: > .:::.+.::;;::+:. ....:=+:=: ;+;;+..- ===a..:' ... > . . ::.. .... .|+. ...==a=..;......;;- =-==a:. > . . . ... ...... .. . a:+......==*..... -`===a > . . ... .. ...... .. a%+......+. . .. ... `==a > dQg `=a > . 4QQg Yg. > sc . gQ4. > ^YQQa It looks more like a superhero to me, like superman or so ;)) -- __ __ _____ .--------------------------. \ \ \ \ / ___/ | Gerfried "Alfie" Fuchs | __\ \ \ \__/_/__ | alfie @ innocent . com | / /_\ \ \_______/ | http://come.to/alfie | /_______\ /_/ '-currently^not^available!-'
In article <A0Nx1.11015$xG2...@news.tpnet.pl>, Stanislaw Ciszewski <sta...@only.foo.is.portable> writes >The discussion about flamenco dancer is going to be alive. >So, i decided to create and post yet another dancer graphic. >I have no doubt it is not flamenco, it is not the Dark Side >of the Sun. > >Picture is more realistic but unfortunately it is mono-ascii. It >should be visible only when background is significantly darker then >foreground. The graphic is (personally, for me) an exercise in ascii >gradients painting. Please, let me know is the effect visible on your >system/viewer/newsreader and do you accept such mono pictures. > >Regards, > Staszek > > > > aaaa, > `a, ]WKXXX2X_ > ?4a, )|71lllll) > '''"?ba . iia|9|||= . . . > "4BL_ "=++==:...a . > \oon_, , .:+aa|.:::iQlaa .._. > "Ili+==\'=::~:.:..!..._!'. ..====/<a;=.___ > . . . --=%=/--._-_++..."+~......=~-_= - ------~~<(__s, > . . .+==,. ...... ..= .._,. ."""?\__ > . . . ...=+=+=+==..... ....=+.+"'....+ ~ - > . . .. ..++=+_+::=*=... . ..=*.:+.......... . >. . . ....+...+-:+==:=*=.... . ....*==+=+=+... . > . .+ .. .|-:||*+==+=*= ... . .......=*==:::*... .. . > . . .. ..-:+;;=*+|=+=='...... . .. ....=+=::**... . . > . . +..-w:;==**+=+==:. . .... ..........:=|*::: . . > ... .....-:::;==||=+==:.... . . .............`::.:: . > . . . .. +...-*::=:+++===:. ...... . . ..... . . :;. ... . > . . ..:::.*:;=+;===+'. ........... . ..... . . `::: . ... > . +.::::***;+:;==+' . ....=a=... . . .... . ...::. > . . .::::||:.+:=;: .. ..=;a==;;.. .. .. . ....:: > .:::.+.::;;::+:. ....:=+:=: ;+;;+..- ===a..:' ... > . . ::.. .... .|+. ...==a=..;......;;- =-==a:. > . . . ... ...... .. . a:+......==*..... -`===a > . . ... .. ...... .. a%+......+. . .. ... `==a > dQg `=a > . 4QQg Yg. > sc . gQ4. > ^YQQa > [][ yep..... white text on black backgnd gives a better contrast [][ and increasing the viewing distance helps too [][ she looks like a girl in an action posture possibly dancing with [][ a bright light source behind her [][ see yuz [][ colin -- ( () /_ / /\) _/ /? .\ /\) /) .\ /_ /_ CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk
On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:43:28 GMT, sta...@only.foo.is.portable (Stanislaw Ciszewski) wrote: >The discussion about flamenco dancer is going to be alive. >So, i decided to create and post yet another dancer graphic. >I have no doubt it is not flamenco, it is not the Dark Side >of the Sun. > >Picture is more realistic but unfortunately it is mono-ascii. It >should be visible only when background is significantly darker then >foreground. The graphic is (personally, for me) an exercise in ascii >gradients painting. Please, let me know is the effect visible on your >system/viewer/newsreader and do you accept such mono pictures. > >Regards, > Staszek > > > > aaaa, > `a, ]WKXXX2X_ > ?4a, )|71lllll) > '''"?ba . iia|9|||= . . . > "4BL_ "=++==:...a . > \oon_, , .:+aa|.:::iQlaa .._. > "Ili+==\'=::~:.:..!..._!'. ..====/<a;=.___ > . . . --=%=/--._-_++..."+~......=~-_= - ------~~<(__s, > . . .+==,. ...... ..= .._,. ."""?\__ > . . . ...=+=+=+==..... ....=+.+"'....+ ~ - > . . .. ..++=+_+::=*=... . ..=*.:+.......... . >. . . ....+...+-:+==:=*=.... . ....*==+=+=+... . > . .+ .. .|-:||*+==+=*= ... . .......=*==:::*... .. . > . . .. ..-:+;;=*+|=+=='...... . .. ....=+=::**... . . > . . +..-w:;==**+=+==:. . .... ..........:=|*::: . . > ... .....-:::;==||=+==:.... . . .............`::.:: . > . . . .. +...-*::=:+++===:. ...... . . ..... . . :;. ... . > . . ..:::.*:;=+;===+'. ........... . ..... . . `::: . ... > . +.::::***;+:;==+' . ....=a=... . . .... . ...::. > . . .::::||:.+:=;: .. ..=;a==;;.. .. .. . ....:: > .:::.+.::;;::+:. ....:=+:=: ;+;;+..- ===a..:' ... > . . ::.. .... .|+. ...==a=..;......;;- =-==a:. > . . . ... ...... .. . a:+......==*..... -`===a > . . ... .. ...... .. a%+......+. . .. ... `==a > dQg `=a > . 4QQg Yg. > sc . gQ4. > ^YQQa > Whilst this style works well with your large portraits I find it very unclear and indistinct in complete figures such as the dancer. I tried reductions using resize.exe but I am not certain they look much clearer. Reduced to 75% aaa ?4, )|1llll) '''?ba ii|9||= . . "4B_ "++=:... . "Il+=\'=:~::.....!'. .===/<;=.__ . . . -=%/--_-_+.."+~....=~-= ------~<(_s, . .+=,...... .= ._,. """\__ . . ....+=++==... ...=+."'...+ - . ...+..+:+=:=*... . ...*=+==+.. . . .+ ...|:||+===*=.... .....=*=:::..... . . . .-:;;=+|==='.... . . ...==::*.. . . .. ....::;==|=+=:... . . .........`:::: .. ..+..-*:=:++==:...... .. .... . :; .. . .:::**;+;==' ....=a=.. .. ... ..::. . . .:::|:.:=; ....=a==;.. . . . ...: :::+.:;;:+: ...:=:=: +;;..-===..: .. . . .. .... . . a:+....==*... -`==a . ........... . %+...... . .....`== dg `a sc . gQ. ^YQa Reduced to 85% aaa, `a, ]WKXX2X_ ?a, )|71llll) ''"?ba . iia||||= . . \on_, , :+aa|.::iQla .._. Ili+=='=::~.:..!.._!'. .====<a;=.__ . . . --=%=--._-++..."~.....=~-_=- -----~~<(_s, . .==,. ..... .= .._. ."""?\_ . . ..=+==+==.... ...=+.+"....+ ~ . . .. .++=+_::=*=.. . ..*.:+........ . . .+ .. .|-||*+=+=*= .. . ......===:::*.. .. . . . . ..-:+;=*+|+=='..... . . ...=+=::*... . . . . ..-w:;=**+===:. ..... ........:=|*:: . .. ....-:::==||===:... . . ...........::.::. . . .. ...-*:=:+++==:. ..... .. .... . .:;. .. . . . .:::.*;=+;==+'. ......... . .... .. `:: . ... . . .::::|:.+:=: .. .=;a==;.. .... . ...:: .::.+.:;;::+. ....=+:=: +;;+.- ===a.:' ... . ::.. ... .|. ...=a=..;.....;- =-==:. . . . ... ..... . . a+.....==*.... -`==a . . .. .. ....... a%....... . . ... ==a 4QQg Yg sc g4. ^QQa Bye,
In article <35c...@news.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite wrote: >On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:43:28 GMT, sta...@only.foo.is.portable (Stanislaw >Ciszewski) wrote: >>The graphic is (personally, for me) an exercise in ascii >>gradients painting. Please, let me know is the effect visible on your >>system/viewer/newsreader and do you accept such mono pictures. > >Whilst this style works well with your large portraits I find it >very unclear and indistinct in complete figures such as the dancer. Great thanx for all answers. As i wrote it was exercise. Till now the "unclear and indistinct" wins two to one the "visible". So, should you have any idea how to make it clear ? A few tries give that using more contrast characters kill the foggy lamp efect. Any ideas ? Regards, Staszek
Stanislaw Ciszewski <sta...@only.foo.is.portable> wrote: >Great thanx for all answers. As i wrote it was exercise. Till now >the "unclear and indistinct" wins two to one the "visible". So, should >you have any idea how to make it clear ? A few tries give >that using more contrast characters kill the foggy lamp efect. >Any ideas ? I was hoping you would really develop your portrait-style which looked quite novel when you first began posting but you seem to be trying out other forms of ascii-artwork which are _not_ new or innovative. . , . - - _ . ~ - -- __ -` . .. ` - -_ --- ., -~~ `.. . -` + . _ ; - - -- - - .- ., -` -. .` - - - -~. ~ . - - - - - - : ; - - ._ - ~` . -~ - ~ ~~-. : - -- - -. . + . ; : :~- . ' ` . .~ ___. : | .` - -. .'.. -:.` . . - : . - .' . ' .. -` . . _:. ~~ ' ; . ` - '' + .-. + . . + . .; _` ;`- ' '. ;~` . _. ' ._/+/: .- ;. .' . . - . _- _ . ` ~.~~` .` . .;. ' ' - +` ..- /:+. + `. . + . ;. :/ +' .` .` . -= ~ . . . . - ' .. . . . . .`+ : ; .' . . `. . ` . + . _ ; ; ; .|. ; ' . . . . : ' ' . ; . -~ . ; . . _.- : ; : . . - _.- . ' : Stanislaw Ciszewski ; : ' . ' ` -- ~ ' :, ` . ' . ` `. : ' ; sc ` ` ~` - . ~ The best artists have a recognisable individual style which permeates all their pictures. Row ( Rowan Crawford ) was fond of using letters in his line drawings. I don't like them and I actually told him so when he was posting to this newsgroup...but he liked it and that was Row's style. Henry Segerman uses F & J all over his pictures...I don't like that either...but that is Henry's individual style. Normand Veilleux loved '8' :-) Allen Mullen likes expertly diddled GIF to ASCII conversions. Joris Bellenger aka b'ger has a sort of "shadow style". Me? I don't have a style...I'm mainly a crappy diddler/mutilator of other people's pics. Bye,
>> . , . - - _ >> . ~ - -- __ -` . >> .. ` - -_ --- ., -~~ `.. . -` + . _ >> ; - - -- - - .- ., -` -. >> .` - - - -~. ~ . >> - - - - - - : >> ; - - ._ - ~` . -~ - ~ ~~-. : >> - -- - -. . + . ; : >> :~- . ' ` . .~ ___. : | >> .` - -. .'.. -:.` . . - : >> . - .' . ' .. -` . . _:. ~~ ' ; >> . ` - '' + .-. + . . + . .; _` >> ;`- ' '. ;~` . _. ' ._/+/: .- >> ;. .' . . - . _- _ . ` ~.~~` .` . >> .;. ' ' - +` ..- /:+. + `. . + . ;. >> :/ +' .` .` . -= ~ . . . . >> - ' .. . . . . .`+ : >> ; .' . . `. . ` . + . _ ; ; >> ; .|. ; ' . . . . : ' ' . >> ; . -~ . ; . . _.- : >> ; : . . - _.- . ' : Stanislaw Ciszewski >> ; : ' . ' ` -- ~ ' >> :, ` . ' . ` >> `. : ' ; sc >> ` ` ~` - . ~ Maybe I'm just blind. I don't see the dancer. I see a girl's face, looking off to the right. Her mouth is just to the left of Stanislaw's name, her nose just above it. she's wearing a wide brim hat, and her eyes are around where the /+ symbols are... Does anyone else see this? I thought I was supposed to see flamenco dancers? Am I just confused? It's a very _nice_ girl's face... Even if it wasn't meant to be that... Cyd :) To reply to me, remove the REMOVE from my address. Any unsolicited email shall be treated as harassment and reported to the proper authorities. I charge $500 for every spam received, as a processing fee.
Before this, Cyd <cy...@rci.rutgers.edu> wrote: >>> . , . - - _ >>> . ~ - -- __ -` . >>> .. ` - -_ --- ., -~~ `.. . -` + . _ >>> ; - - -- - - .- ., -` -. >>> .` - - - -~. ~ . >>> - - - - - - : >>> ; - - ._ - ~` . -~ - ~ ~~-. : >>> - -- - -. . + . ; : >>> :~- . ' ` . .~ ___. : | >>> .` - -. .'.. -:.` . . - : >>> . - .' . ' .. -` . . _:. ~~ ' ; >>> . ` - '' + .-. + . . + . .; _` >>> ;`- ' '. ;~` . _. ' ._/+/: .- >>> ;. .' . . - . _- _ . ` ~.~~` .` . >>> .;. ' ' - +` ..- /:+. + `. . + . ;. >>> :/ +' .` .` . -= ~ . . . . >>> - ' .. . . . . .`+ : >>> ; .' . . `. . ` . + . _ ; ; >>> ; .|. ; ' . . . . : ' ' . >>> ; . -~ . ; . . _.- : >>> ; : . . - _.- . ' : Stanislaw Ciszewski >>> ; : ' . ' ` -- ~ ' >>> :, ` . ' . ` >>> `. : ' ; sc >>> ` ` ~` - . ~ > >Maybe I'm just blind. I don't see the dancer. I see a girl's face, looking >off to the right. Her mouth is just to the left of Stanislaw's name, her >nose just above it. she's wearing a wide brim hat, and her eyes are around >where the /+ symbols are... Does anyone else see this? I thought I was >supposed to see flamenco dancers? Am I just confused? > Methinks 'tis a zoom'lens view of the dancer.....though I could be wrong, of course. >It's a very _nice_ girl's face... Even if it wasn't meant to be that... With this I do concur. -- Nosmo
In article <902...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite wrote: >Stanislaw Ciszewski <sta...@only.foo.is.portable> wrote: > >>Great thanx for all answers. As i wrote it was exercise. Till now >>the "unclear and indistinct" wins two to one the "visible". So, should >>you have any idea how to make it clear ? A few tries give >>that using more contrast characters kill the foggy lamp efect. >>Any ideas ? > > >I was hoping you would really develop your portrait-style which looked >quite novel when you first began posting but you seem to be trying >out other forms of ascii-artwork which are _not_ new or innovative. HEY, YOU WAIT !! Where are you going ? Am I bad Muse ? /// /\. ) ; ) (: )( =.: /~~ \`; '=-. | ' `. No, Baby )`~-~-~|= | : . | I'm wanderer. |`, ( ) " ) ; = \ "; .\ / _.) \ /'--'\ ". _-\`~. -|\ | \/ \/ \`- -) -\ "=_ \ .: )~- -. \ | / /- -| | \ = | - =/ --. -) : | | == - :_ " -/ -| / : \ ;/ ~/_ -/ -/ : / \ \ - \_ " :~ \` | - _- \--,\`~ : : )- ~ - - | \ .\ /- = ~~ \( Regards, Staszek
In article <902...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > > Stanislaw Ciszewski <sta...@only.foo.is.portable> wrote: > > >Great thanx for all answers. As i wrote it was exercise. Till now > >the "unclear and indistinct" wins two to one the "visible". So, should > >you have any idea how to make it clear ? A few tries give > >that using more contrast characters kill the foggy lamp efect. > >Any ideas ? > > I was hoping you would really develop your portrait-style which looked > quite novel when you first began posting but you seem to be trying > out other forms of ascii-artwork which are _not_ new or innovative. > > . , . - - _ > . ~ - -- __ -` . > .. ` - -_ --- ., -~~ `.. . -` + . _ > ; - - -- - - .- ., -` -. > .` - - - -~. ~ . > - - - - - - : > ; - - ._ - ~` . -~ - ~ ~~-. : > - -- - -. . + . ; : > :~- . ' ` . .~ ___. : | > .` - -. .'.. -:.` . . - : > . - .' . ' .. -` . . _:. ~~ ' ; > . ` - '' + .-. + . . + . .; _` > ;`- ' '. ;~` . _. ' ._/+/: .- > ;. .' . . - . _- _ . ` ~.~~` .` . > .;. ' ' - +` ..- /:+. + `. . + . ;. > :/ +' .` .` . -= ~ . . . . > - ' .. . . . . .`+ : > ; .' . . `. . ` . + . _ ; ; > ; .|. ; ' . . . . : ' ' . > ; . -~ . ; . . _.- : > ; : . . - _.- . ' : Stanislaw Ciszewski > ; : ' . ' ` -- ~ ' > :, ` . ' . ` > `. : ' ; sc > ` ` ~` - . ~ > > The best artists have a recognisable individual style which > permeates all their pictures. > [snip] > Bye, What *are* you saying Colin? The drawing definitely has the same airy recognisable individual style that the first wonderful portrait had. It's just not quite as successful. Am I wrong, Stanislaw, that you have some background behind the dancer? What would happen if you reversed the characters and used the more solid -:+;;=*+|=+ for the girl's dress and the .... . .... for the background? Of course this might mean changing the type of characters in her legs. But maybe not. I just viewed your drawing with a size 3 font and I really think that the reversal might be the answer. I love the motion that you have achieved. Maybe you could work a little on her head as well so that it is obvious which way her head is turned. In the larger drawing it looks like you have her looking back at her raised hand (a very nice idea) but in the size 3 font, she appears to be looking straight ahead. aaaa, `a, ]WKXXX2X_ ?4a, )|71lllll) '''"?ba . iia|9|||= . . . "4BL_ "=++==:...a . \oon_, , .:+aa|.:::iQlaa .._. "Ili+==\'=::~:.:..!..._!'. ..====/<a;=.___ . . . --=%=/--._-_++..."+~......=~-_= - ------~~<(__s, . . .+==,. ...... ..= .._,. ."""?\__ . . . ...=+=+=+==..... ....=+.+"'....+ ~ - . . .. ..++=+_+::=*=... . ..=*.:+.......... . . . . ....+...+-:+==:=*=.... . ....*==+=+=+... . . .+ .. .|-:||*+==+=*= ... . .......=*==:::*... .. . . . .. ..-:+;;=*+|=+=='...... . .. ....=+=::**... . . . . +..-w:;==**+=+==:. . .... ..........:=|*::: . . ... .....-:::;==||=+==:.... . . .............`::.:: . . . . .. +...-*::=:+++===:. ...... . . ..... . . :;. ... . . . ..:::.*:;=+;===+'. ........... . ..... . . `::: . ... . +.::::***;+:;==+' . ....=a=... . . .... . ...::. . . .::::||:.+:=;: .. ..=;a==;;.. .. .. . ....:: .:::.+.::;;::+:. ....:=+:=: ;+;;+..- ===a..:' ... . . ::.. .... .|+. ...==a=..;......;;- =-==a:. . . . ... ...... .. . a:+......==*..... -`===a . . ... .. ...... .. a%+......+. . .. ... `==a dQg `=a . 4QQg Yg. sc . gQ4. ^YQQa I hope this was of some use to you. Please post more of your experiments. They are quite wonderful. NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ llizard aka ejm cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca _/ | ,^%--- |_____| __<_ \ It's the light dark contrast --- == >/ that is so interesting. [_____] __>,^ ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: >What *are* you saying Colin? The drawing definitely has the same airy >recognisable individual style that the first wonderful portrait had. >It's just not quite as successful. I'm saying I think his style is innovative and successful with the large portraits/faces but that it is not successful used in smaller pictures like the dancer. Lots of viewers will struggle to even see a dancer there. The author asked for opinions, I gave mine, you have given yours. We don't have to agree do we? I don't care for fuzzy indistinct pictures. +-------------+--------------+----------------------------------+ | o o o o | <o o> | Just because we disagree | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | doesn't mean I have to killfile | | |||||| || | /> <\ | you, unless I want to. | +-------------+--------------+----------------------------------+ Bye,
I see the exact same thing you are seeing. I am also confused.
-Sarah
In article <902...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > > llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: > > >What *are* you saying Colin? The drawing definitely has the same airy > >recognisable individual style that the first wonderful portrait had. > >It's just not quite as successful. > > I'm saying I think his style is innovative and successful with the > large portraits/faces but that it is not successful used in smaller > pictures like the dancer. Lots of viewers will struggle to even see > a dancer there. > > The author asked for opinions, I gave mine, you have given yours. > We don't have to agree do we? I don't care for fuzzy indistinct > pictures. [snip] > Bye, I humbly beg your pardon, Colin, I was under the impression that you were saying he had abandoned his style to try another style. NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca _/ | ,^%--- llizard aka ejm |_____| __<_ \ Shall we agree to disagree? --- == >/ [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII & gif anima+ions ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
In article <35c...@news3.uswest.net>, Sarah and Tony Day wrote:
>I see the exact same thing you are seeing. I am also confused.
To Sarah and Tony Day, Cyd and Nosmo:
You unfortunately caught last posts in longer discussion :)
The graphics you see is the "Face 1" which i posted few weeks ago and
is not the topic of this thread.
Story so far:
Few days ago, when the "Flamenco Dancer" thread has appeared after a
long time silent, i've created and posted an *experimental* graphic. The
graphic was *mono ascii* i.e. it was visible only when the background
(of your chars) is darker than foreground. (The white characters on the
black background, for example). The question was: Is the effect
visible/clear on your screen ? It is important question because there are
many various terminals and systems with various font glypths which gives
the various gray rate when glyphs are concatenated.
The first receptions has gave the result:
visible | not visible
----------+---------------
1 | 2
After results was first time summed up, llizard send a post
with important (for me) technical suggestions (i asked for). His post
changed the current results (personal opinion) to this:
visible | not visible
----------+---------------
1.5 | 2.5
The graphic is below. Please, send your impression about this one.
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Regards,
Staszek
In article <35C...@iNOdirect.ca>, llizard wrote: > >Am I wrong, Stanislaw, that you have some background behind the dancer? >What would happen if you reversed the characters and used the more solid >-:+;;=*+|=+ for the girl's >dress and the .... . .... for the background? Of course this might >mean changing the type of characters in her legs. But maybe not. I just >viewed your drawing with a size 3 font and I really think that the >reversal might be the answer. > >I love the motion that you have achieved. > >Maybe you could work a little on her head as well so that it is obvious >which way her head is turned. In the larger drawing it looks like you >have her looking back at her raised hand (a very nice idea) but in the >size 3 font, she appears to be looking straight ahead. Great thanks. I'm going to repaint it next week. Regards, Staszek
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: >I humbly beg your pardon, Colin, I was under the impression that you >were saying he had abandoned his style to try another style. I herein, herewith, and do now...graciously pardon you... "Arise Sir Lizard!" :-) o __/^\__ o |\ #{X}# /| {###{X}###} _.--~_@.__ ~~-._ :..____~ ~-. ________'' ~_ (/~~^^'' ~~-.. ~ ._ ; `-._ `. ~. -cfbd- ~~\. ~\ Actually I do think he has been experimenting with other, more conventional, styles but his "open dotty-starry-style" in large facial images do have a novel look about them compared with other portrait work that has gone before. Bye,
.----- On Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:47:12 -0600, Sarah and Tony Day posted:
|I see the exact same thing you are seeing. I am also confused.
| -Sarah
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The other pic appeared somewhere in the thread but the subject wasn`t changed.
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Oh yeah, I see this, sorta. There is a light behind a girl in a dress, with
her arms pointing out. Yeah, this probably would look better light on a dark
background, but it is very nice, regardless.
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<snip> > ___ cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca > _/ | ,^%--- llizard aka ejm > |_____| __<_ \ Shall we agree to disagree? > --- == >/ > [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII & gif anima+ions > ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/ The whole thing about agreeing and disagreeing is pretty wierd, if you think about it. If 2 people disagree with eachother all the time, they have agreed to diagree about everying, which means they agreed on something, but the are not agreeing on anything...I could really drive you nuts if I went on about this, so I'll quit. -Sarah
I found the "gradient" style picture of the girl's face beautiful, I found the "gradient" style picture of the flamenco dancer not as beautiful, but Stanislaw is planning to repaint the latter picture. Intuitively, I would say that the gradient style is predestined for still life pictures, and portraits should play a prominent place here. Perhaps Stanislaw should try to portrait Einstein. Another area of application that seems to lend itself to the gradient style is that of dual pictures like the one that shows the ugly face of an old woman and the head of a pretty young lady in one and the same interwoven pic. Depicting motion solely with the gradient style will be difficult, if possible at all, at the low resolution of ascii pics of less than a hundred characters across. The flamenco dancer has used elements of the solid style to depict motion. It may be more purposeful to use elements of the line style to depict motion in the form of swirls, swishes and similar. In any case, the gradient style is a new style equivalent to the solid and line styles in ascii art. My congrats to Stanislaw! ================================================================ [] [] [] /( )\ Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( "> <" ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )><( <) Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie [] [] ^^ ^^ [] ================================================================
>Message-id: <35C...@sympatico.ca> >Another area of application that seems to >lend itself to the gradient style is that of dual pictures like the one that >shows the ugly face of an old woman and the head of a pretty young lady in >one >and the same interwoven pic. This has been done by Normand Viellieux- look at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/favorite.htm -joan -- ~ ,sSSs ~ sSSs, ~ ,SSSS_/ ,_ ~ joan stark _, \_SSSS, ~ sS/`))\// mailto:spu...@juno.com \\/((`\Ss S//|_(\/ \/)_|\\S S\\|::\ ~ /::|//S ,SS` \:| ~ ASCII ART GALLERY |:/ `SS, S` \|__ http://www.ascii-art.com __|/ `S ~ /:::\ /:::\ jgs \:`'` `'`:/ ~
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > It looks more like a superhero to me, like superman or so ;)) I have to appologise for myself but I looked at it again for seeing what it was meant to be. But I guess it's really hard to see it the right way. I'm having black on white here, and with marking the picture it was hard to tell for the right side wasn't even (some lines are shorter than the others and my netscape news doesn't highlight the whole line :( ). peace :) ,-+-. / | \ | /|\ | \/ | \/ `-+-' -- .-Gerfried-"Alfie"-Fuchs-. \ \ \ \ / ___/ Music was my first love | alfie @ innocent . com | __\ \ \ \__/_/__ and it will be my last | http://come.to/alfie | / /_\ \ \_______/ () Free Speech in 'currently^not^available!' /_______\ /_/ /\ the Internet
> >Another area of application that seems to > >lend itself to the gradient style is that of dual pictures like the one that > >shows the ugly face of an old woman and the head of a pretty young lady in > >one > >and the same interwoven pic. > > This has been done by Normand Viellieux- > look at: > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/favorite.htm Look, look, look, Spunkystein commenting on my article, but ... Normand's pic is solid style, not gradient style. The reason I pointed out the dual picture example is that the eye can interpret the slope in a gradient picture in two different ways. If the eye interprets the slope to go one way, it sees one picture, if the eye interprets the slope to go the other way, it sees the other picture. ================================================================ [] [] [] /( )\ Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( "> <" ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )><( <) Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie [] [] ^^ ^^ [] ================================================================
>Message-id: <35C...@sympatico.ca> >The reason I pointed out the dual picture example is that the eye can >interpret the slope in a gradient picture in two different ways. If the eye >interprets the slope to go one way, it sees one picture, if the eye >interprets >the slope to go the other way, it sees the other picture. Why not just change the background? View the pic as white on black and then as black on white. The eye will have to interpret the characters in the opposite way- same as gradient. -joan -- .{{}}}}}}. {{{{{}}}}}}}. joan stark <spu...@juno.com> {{{{ }}}}}}}}} }}}}} _ _ {{{{{ ASCII Art Gallery: }}}} 6 . 6 {{{{ <http://www.ascii-art.com> {{{{{ .___. }}}}} {{{{{{\ \_/ /}}}}}} {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}} still laughing AT you! {{{{{{{) (}}}}}}}' `""'"': :'"'"'` jgs `@`
> >The reason I pointed out the dual picture example is that the eye can > >interpret the slope in a gradient picture in two different ways. If the eye > >interprets the slope to go one way, it sees one picture, if the eye > >interprets > >the slope to go the other way, it sees the other picture. > > Why not just change the background? View the > pic as white on black and then as black on white. > The eye will have to interpret the characters > in the opposite way- same as gradient. Look, look, look, Spunkystein seeking a discussion in spite of stating otherwise! But of course, you missed the point of dual pictures my dear. The point of dual pictures is to see two different pictures in one and the same exhibit, without changing anything in the exhibit. ================================================================ [] [] [] /( )\ Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( "> <" ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )><( <) Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie [] [] ^^ ^^ [] ================================================================
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