JMOV Ascii Animation with sound support

Hi,

I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
two types of sound support:
  http://www.jave.de/player/demo/demo8.html
For those who do not want to load the applet I have attached the
animation as scrollbar-animation at the end of this email.
This is my very first hand made ascii art animation - feel free to
diddle.
BTW: Who recognizes (w/o looking at the applet first) the great computer
game the scene is from?

For those who want to find out more about jmov animations and the new
player have a look at:
  http://www.jave.de/player  

For questions and comments please send me a note - but do not expect me
to answer before 2002 :-)

Regards,
Markus
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    |   Scrollbar     |   Scrollbar     |   Scrollbar     |   Scrollbar
    |    Animation    |    Animation    |    Animation    |    Animation
    |            (created using JavE 2.1 - http://www.jave.de)
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> I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
> JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
> two types of sound support:
>   http://www.jave.de/player/demo/demo8.html
> For those who do not want to load the applet I have attached the
> animation as scrollbar-animation at the end of this email.
> This is my very first hand made ascii art animation - feel free to
> diddle.
> BTW: Who recognizes (w/o looking at the applet first) the great computer
> game the scene is from?

Who doesn't recognize Bubble Bobble ?
Great game .. I can download it today from c64.com and play it on my C64
emulator if I want.
The Amiga version was better though.

> For those who want to find out more about jmov animations and the new
> player have a look at:
>   http://www.jave.de/player

Very cool stuff .. only when you browse to a new page the sound keeps looping in
the background. .. a little bug it seems.

> For questions and comments please send me a note - but do not expect me
> to answer before 2002 :-)

Ofcourse ..
Frohe Weihnachten Markus !

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:25:40 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
>JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
>two types of sound support:

Cool demo ( here and on the demo page) I really like the event driven Idea
although I can see uses for each way.
One thing I didnt see was a link to Download the new player, or information
on adding in the event cue. I did DL the demo zip and will look in there 
momentarily.
Will this run in the current editor?

Answers to these and more questions I am sure to have later may become apparent
shortly, but I do wish there was more Documentation. I do enjoy a puzzle once 
in a while, but .............

CeeJay wrote:
> 
> > I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
> > JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
> > two types of sound support:
> >   http://www.jave.de/player/demo/demo8.html
> > For those who do not want to load the applet I have attached the
> > animation as scrollbar-animation at the end of this email.
> > This is my very first hand made ascii art animation - feel free to
> > diddle.
> > BTW: Who recognizes (w/o looking at the applet first) the great computer
> > game the scene is from?
> 
> Who doesn't recognize Bubble Bobble ?
> Great game .. I can download it today from c64.com and play it on my C64
> emulator if I want.
> The Amiga version was better though.

No, the C64 version was much better! However, there seems to be a cool
freeware remake at: http://www.alawar.com/games/bubble/ I have not tried
it yet.

> > For those who want to find out more about jmov animations and the new
> > player have a look at:
> >   http://www.jave.de/player
> 
> Very cool stuff .. only when you browse to a new page the sound keeps looping in
> the background. .. a little bug it seems.

I will have a look at it next year.
 
> > For questions and comments please send me a note - but do not expect me
> > to answer before 2002 :-)
> 
> Ofcourse ..
> Frohe Weihnachten Markus !

Also: Frohe Weihnachten to everyone in this group!

Markus
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MJP wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:25:40 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
> >JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
> >two types of sound support:
> 
> Cool demo ( here and on the demo page) I really like the event driven Idea
> although I can see uses for each way.
> One thing I didnt see was a link to Download the new player, or information
> on adding in the event cue. I did DL the demo zip and will look in there
> momentarily.
> Will this run in the current editor?

The current editor will strip the sound trigger (if there is any).
Everything else is fine. The editor will be able to add/remove sound
triggers in the next release of JavE.

> Answers to these and more questions I am sure to have later may become apparent
> shortly, but I do wish there was more Documentation. I do enjoy a puzzle once
> in a while, but .............

Ok, you are right. I am not very strong at documentation.

You have to look at the jmov specification at
  http://www.jave.de/player/jmov_specification.html
to find out all about the new applet parameters SOUND and SOUNDSTART and
about the new sound trigger event # in the jmov file.
You can download the player form:
  http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12.zip
And its source code:
  http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12src.zip

Well, here is all (I think) you have to know about sound support:

 * The sound file must be in *.au format, recorded at 8 KHz, mono, in
mu-law encoding. If your audio clip is in a different format (e.g.,
.wav) or a different frequency it must be converted to the exact
specifications above before Java can play it. To convert files from
different formats search your favorite for GoldWave for Windows, sox for
Unix and similar conversion utilities for other systems.
 * To add the sound file to the applet add an applet parameter, for
example:
    <PARAM NAME="SOUND" VALUE="waltz.au">
 * To specify the way to play the audio file specify another applet
parameter:
    <PARAM NAME="SOUNDSTART" VALUE="EVENT">
   Valid values are:
    "EVENT": To start the sound file event driven (at a certain frame -
one or more)
    "ONCE": To start the sound file right when starting the animation
    "LOOP": The same as ONCE, but the sound file will be played looping
endlessly.
 * For the event-driven sound playback you have to manually (at the
moment) add a line containing only # in the jmov file right after the
frame(s) where you want to play the sound file at. Example:

J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%0%7 __/  \._%21 .%3-.%0%7 \
J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%22 .%3 .%0%7 __/  \._%20 .- .
#
J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%0%7 __/  \._%0%7 \  ,-,-.\

Playing the sound file will start when showing the second frame.

Markus
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"MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message
news:3c2...@news.concentric.net...
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:25:40 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
> >JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
> >two types of sound support:
>
> Cool demo ( here and on the demo page) I really like the event driven Idea
> although I can see uses for each way.
> One thing I didnt see was a link to Download the new player, or information
> on adding in the event cue. I did DL the demo zip and will look in there
> momentarily.
> Will this run in the current editor?
>
> Answers to these and more questions I am sure to have later may become
apparent
> shortly, but I do wish there was more Documentation. I do enjoy a puzzle once
> in a while, but .............
>

I had similar questions and confusions, as it seems the link to download it
(found here: http://www.jave.de/player/index.html#opensource , the link is
actually http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12.zip ) is a dud.  It downloads a
1KB zip file that is empty.  I did track it down backwards-like from the demo
page, it can be found here: http://www.jave.de/player/demo/javeplayer.jar .

After looking at the [revised] parameter list, i ended up doing the same thing
as above, downloading and poking through the demo movie.  What I saw was the '#'
was in a line by itself, after the desired frame location.  You can:

1. Open the .jmov in a text editor (like Notepad)

2. Track down the frame you want
   -look for landmarks, e.g.-in my movie[ish abomination],
http://ice.prohosting.com/wdxl/birdshot.html (change .html to .zip to download,
and don't forget the sound file), the line containing the frame I was looking
for had "swoosh" in it.

3. Enter the '#'
   -I simply hit Enter after the lines I wanted to tag, and then # on it's own
line. Like this:
<snipped top>
J:A16 3 %4|%3 _ |`',|%0%3|{  (V)%5|%0%3|%4=#*swoosh*
#
J:A16 3 %4|%3 _  ,%0%3|{  (V)%0%3|%4=#%8=
<snipped bottom>

4. Make/Download/Convert the sound
   -A little trouble here, too.  My latin isn't great, but isn't mu the one that
looks like a funky 'u'?  Mu-formating was mentioned in Mr. Gebhard's
documentation, but it wasn't working for me (if I had the right letter).  I
tried converting in Sound Forge XP, then GoldWave (as suggested).  The format
that DID work, refered to as "Sun(*.au), Java/Web, mono", was in GoldWave.

5. Write in the parameters
   -For the both EVENTs and LOOPs:
<PARAM NAME="SOUND" VALUE="soundname.au">
   -For EVENTs:
<PARAM NAME="SOUNDSET" VALUE="EVENT">
   -For LOOPs:
<PARAM NAME="SOUNDSET" VALUE="LOOP">


You know, I just perused a little more, and most of this -is- documented, look
at http://www.jave.de/player/index.html#news , there's a table with a lot of the
information I just rambled.

It does leave me (or more acurately, I will leave you) with a couple more
questions, can multiple sounds be used?  If they can, can they also use
different SOUNDSETs?

Thank you and good night,
Merry Christmas!!!,
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SkyPhydeaux wrote:
> 
> "MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:3c2...@news.concentric.net...
> > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:25:40 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I finally found a few minutes time to add basic sound support to the
> > >JavE-Player Applet. There is a litte demo movie online where you can see
> > >two types of sound support:
> >
> > Cool demo ( here and on the demo page) I really like the event driven Idea
> > although I can see uses for each way.
> > One thing I didnt see was a link to Download the new player, or information
> > on adding in the event cue. I did DL the demo zip and will look in there
> > momentarily.
> > Will this run in the current editor?
> >
> > Answers to these and more questions I am sure to have later may become
> apparent
> > shortly, but I do wish there was more Documentation. I do enjoy a puzzle once
> > in a while, but .............
> >
> 
> I had similar questions and confusions, as it seems the link to download it
> (found here: http://www.jave.de/player/index.html#opensource , the link is
> actually http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12.zip ) is a dud.  It downloads a
> 1KB zip file that is empty.

Oops - that's what happens when one does it all when already being in a
hurry to finish christmas presents, etc. I have fixed the file.

> [...]
> You know, I just perused a little more, and most of this -is- documented, look
> at http://www.jave.de/player/index.html#news , there's a table with a lot of the
> information I just rambled.

Right, I have added it today. It is the same as I already have postet to
this newsgroup as answer to MJPs questions.

> It does leave me (or more acurately, I will leave you) with a couple more
> questions, can multiple sounds be used?  If they can, can they also use
> different SOUNDSETs?

No, not yet. I have thought about multiple sound support - at least for
the event triggered sound it might be very useful. But I wanted to test
it all with a single file at first.
I will not have time to think about multiple sound files during the next
months or so, so maybe this could be the first thing someone else could
take care about. At the moment it is an open source project with only
one developer...
However I already have some ideas: The event trigger could be extended
to #:1, #:2,... for support of multiple event sounds. In the applet
parameter one would have to add multiple files, too, e.g.:
param="SOUNDFILE1" value="event_sound_no_1.au", etc.
Maybe it also would be a good idea to add the names of the sound files
in the jmov rather than specifying it in the applet parameters...

For the moment I have to care about christmas, family, etc. And I need
some relaxing from the hard work on JavE etc.

Now it is your turn: I am looking forward for seeing (and hearing!) new
jmovs :-)

Markus
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"Markus Gebhard" <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote in message
news:3C2...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...
> SkyPhydeaux wrote:
> > can multiple sounds be used?  If they can, can they also use
> > different SOUNDSETs?
>
> No, not yet. I have thought about multiple sound support - at least for
> the event triggered sound it might be very useful. But I wanted to test
> it all with a single file at first.
> I will not have time to think about multiple sound files during the next
> months or so, so maybe this could be the first thing someone else could
> take care about. At the moment it is an open source project with only
> one developer...
> However I already have some ideas: The event trigger could be extended
> to #:1, #:2,... for support of multiple event sounds. In the applet
> parameter one would have to add multiple files, too, e.g.:
> param="SOUNDFILE1" value="event_sound_no_1.au", etc.
> Maybe it also would be a good idea to add the names of the sound files
> in the jmov rather than specifying it in the applet parameters...
>
> For the moment I have to care about christmas, family, etc. And I need
> some relaxing from the hard work on JavE etc.
>
> Now it is your turn: I am looking forward for seeing (and hearing!) new
> jmovs :-)
>
> Markus

I seem to have been mixed up there for a bit... timely-speaking, I mean.
Sometimes I forget I'm in a completely different time zone :P .  But thanks for
everything you've done on the project so far, and merry Christmas to you and
your family!!!

As for our part, I'll be working on jmovs/learning java for a little while...
not much else to do around here. :)

Regards from Korea,

-Phydeaux

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:13:55 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
8<
>
>You have to look at the jmov specification at
>  http://www.jave.de/player/jmov_specification.html
>to find out all about the new applet parameters SOUND and SOUNDSTART and
>about the new sound trigger event # in the jmov file.

I'll check it out, I did see the HTML codes, and after I posted before I did open 
the zip and deduce the # was the trigger

>You can download the player form:
>  http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12.zip

I did the same as Phydeaux and grabbed it already, but its good to have it
there in the zipped file to make it easier to find.

>And its source code:
>  http://www.jave.de/player/javeplayer12src.zip
>
>Well, here is all (I think) you have to know about sound support:
>
> * The sound file must be in *.au format, recorded at 8 KHz, mono, in
>mu-law encoding. If your audio clip is in a different format (e.g.,
>.wav) or a different frequency it must be converted to the exact
>specifications above before Java can play it. To convert files from
>different formats search your favorite for GoldWave for Windows, sox for
>Unix and similar conversion utilities for other systems.
> * To add the sound file to the applet add an applet parameter, for
>example:
>    <PARAM NAME="SOUND" VALUE="waltz.au">
> * To specify the way to play the audio file specify another applet
>parameter:
>    <PARAM NAME="SOUNDSTART" VALUE="EVENT">
>   Valid values are:
>    "EVENT": To start the sound file event driven (at a certain frame -
>one or more)
>    "ONCE": To start the sound file right when starting the animation
>    "LOOP": The same as ONCE, but the sound file will be played looping
>endlessly.
> * For the event-driven sound playback you have to manually (at the
>moment) add a line containing only # in the jmov file right after the
>frame(s) where you want to play the sound file at. Example:
>
>J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%0%7 __/  \._%21 .%3-.%0%7 \
>J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%22 .%3 .%0%7 __/  \._%20 .- .
>#
>J:A61 8 %0%10 /\%0%7 __/  \._%0%7 \  ,-,-.\
>
>Playing the sound file will start when showing the second frame.
>

Thank you, I look forward to the next editor having the support in it
so that it will be easier to specify where the event should be.
Multiple Event, Multiple sound will be great
#:sound1.au
#:sound2.au
if .mid and .au use different sound engines( I think they do) you
might even get midi as a background (loop or start type control)
and have .au events (mutiple sounds supported) it would be nice
if you didnt have to declare the sounds in the html, but that isnt
too hard so if you have to then thats ok.


Anyway Merry Christmas to those that celebrate
Happy Monday to the rest ;)

>BTW: Who recognizes (w/o looking at the applet first) the great computer
>game the scene is from?

bubble bobble...

try getting your hands on a puzzle bobble cd-rom for PC. its music and
gameplay rule :) almost as good as the original

the gfx are much cuter too

or for the ones who can only play the c64 version.. get MAME (multiple
arcade machine emulator) and the bubble bobble rom set :)

by the way i encountered a bug(?)

i had both jmovs running simultaneously and when i closed the browser
it kept playing the loop... actually it still is playing the loop
now... odd... annoying... to be fixed

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