What name should I use? A Pole (fishing or otherwise)

drsquare wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:49:31 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  (Michael Vester <mve...@v-wave.com>) wrote:
> 
> >drsquare wrote:
> >
> >> >> We have a compelling reason in DrSquare's cartooning genius to want
> >> >> to keep the flatfish going... sans flatfish, rien.
> >> >> 
> >> >Yes, drsquare's rendition of flatfish in his/her/its aquarium cracked
> >> >me up.
> >> 
> >> I'm glad you enjoyed it.
> >>
> >You have earned some respect and appreciation for your cartoon work. You
> >are humble when receiving praise for your work.  You claim it is easy or
> >it is not that good. The fact that you do find it easy indicates that you
> >have a real talent.
> 
> No, it really is easy. Try it, it is very easy to do simple ascii-art
> drawings, as anyone in alt.ascii-art will testify. And it's even easier to
> come up with a load of crap jokes.
> 
> >The only thing the matters with art is, "Do people like it?"
> >Clearly, everyone on cola likes your art.
> 
> No, not art. Just some hastily put together cartoons with some crap jokes.
> 
> >Your fan club eagerly awaits your next edition.
> 
> Don't hold you're breath, I'm completely out of ideas. If I was to do
> another one, it would likely be completely different to the first and
> second. The first one was only a few frames, and was more based on a
> single event, with Flatfish always in his tank.
> 
> However, for the second one I intended to make it someone longer, and more
> of a complete story. Whilst doing this, I completely forgot that Flatfish
> was supposed to be in an aquarium! By the time I'd realised he'd been out
> of water for the whole episode, it was too late to go back. I had to
> completely stretch the story out as well, introducing pointless characters
> like Aaron Kulkis and the people at the airport. Without them padding out
> the story, it would've been much more obvious how weak my material was.
> 
> The story got completely changed several times as well. At first, the
> temporary wintroll "Winrulez" was in it, who was going to help Flatfish
> install Windows XP. They got stuck on putting in the activation code.
> Winrulez was on the phone to MS and reciting the code to Flatty, who was
> writing it all down on a giant toilet roll, which was nearly full.
> Unfortuanetly, that plot was a dead-end, so I decided to have Flatty on
> his own installing Linux.
> 
> The idea to have him go to Terry Porter was merely an excuse to draw what
> I always imagined him and his wife to look like, and their living
> conditions. The hijacking of the plane was unplanned as well. I was
> originally going to have it just land, but then I decided a hijacking
> would be more fun. My original idea was to have him crash the plane into
> the fictional Linux HQ, ala the WTC destruction, but I decided that was a
> bit stupid, although it would have been a bit more interesting.
> 
> Like I said, if I was to do a third, it would have to be a completely
> different style. I will concentrate more on Flatty being in his tank, and
> on trying to actually install Linux, rather than a string of non-Linux
> related stories used merely to bring in c.o.l.a characters and to pad out
> the weak plot. I will try and bring in some decent jokes and humour,
> rather than the crap in the last one, such as the Flatfish down the pants.
> Thinking about it, I have a cliffhanger to finish off, which I can't
> really be bothered with.
> 
That's what made it so great. 

> I didn't get much of a response to the last one, so I'm still undecided as
> to whether to do another. I didn't see a single reply for at least 2 days,
> so I assumed everyone either skipped over it or thought it was crap.
> However, recent comments have been quite encouraging. The expectation is
> much higher this time round, so most people will probably end up quite
> disappointed, expecting some extra-hilarious masterpiece, which just isn't
> going to happen.
> 
You are your own worst critic. 

> Mind you, it doesn't actually take that long to do once you have an idea.
> The drawing only takes a few hours, it's the plot that is the hard bit.
> Anyone can draw some ascii scribbles.
> 
I have tried and failed.  I am religated to the "stickman" school of art. 

> I'm too tired and just can't be bothered at the moment, so if I was going
> to do an episode, I wouldn't be starting for a long while anyway, once I
> have some ideas in my head. I may do some cartoons for other newsgroups,
> such as one about the notorious Ray Gordon in alt.seduction.fast.
> 
> Anyway, I've been rambling on for too long now.
>
It brings out the best in drsquare. 

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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, drsquare wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:49:31 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  (Michael Vester <mve...@v-wave.com>) wrote:
> 
> >You have earned some respect and appreciation for your cartoon work. You 
> >are humble when receiving praise for your work.  You claim it is easy or it 
> >is not that good. The fact that you do find it easy indicates that you have 
> >a real talent. 
> 
> No, it really is easy. Try it, it is very easy to do simple ascii-art
> drawings, as anyone in alt.ascii-art will testify. And it's even easier to
> come up with a load of crap jokes.

	Oof! "Load" of "crap" jokes... punny!  But not puny!

> However, for the second one I intended to make it someone longer, and more
> of a complete story. Whilst doing this, I completely forgot that Flatfish
> was supposed to be in an aquarium! By the time I'd realised he'd been out
> of water for the whole episode, it was too late to go back. I had to
> completely stretch the story out as well, introducing pointless characters
> like Aaron Kulkis and the people at the airport. Without them padding out
> the story, it would've been much more obvious how weak my material was.

	But it was crazy and silly and left-field -- all of it, unexpected
and the unexpected is often humourous.


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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:50:52 -0600, Taliszanna in article
 <Pin...@chem4823.usask.ca> dashed off:
>On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, drsquare wrote:

>> However, for the second one I intended to make it someone longer, and more
>> of a complete story. Whilst doing this, I completely forgot that Flatfish
>> was supposed to be in an aquarium! By the time I'd realised he'd been out
>> of water for the whole episode, it was too late to go back. I had to
>> completely stretch the story out as well, introducing pointless characters
>> like Aaron Kulkis and the people at the airport. Without them padding out
>> the story, it would've been much more obvious how weak my material was.
>
>	But it was crazy and silly and left-field -- all of it, unexpected
>and the unexpected is often humourous.


Exactly!

I vote that the humourous and witty Taliszanna, be awarded lifetime honorary
Cola membership ?


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Strolling through comp.os.linux.advocacy, I heard drsquare say:
>On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:49:31 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (Michael Vester <mve...@v-wave.com>) wrote:
>>drsquare wrote:
>>
>>> >> We have a compelling reason in DrSquare's cartooning genius to want to
>>> >> keep the flatfish going... sans flatfish, rien.
>>> >> 
>>> >Yes, drsquare's rendition of flatfish in his/her/its aquarium cracked me
>>> >up.
>>> 
>>> I'm glad you enjoyed it.
>>>
>>You have earned some respect and appreciation for your cartoon work. You 
>>are humble when receiving praise for your work.  You claim it is easy or it 
>>is not that good. The fact that you do find it easy indicates that you have 
>>a real talent. 
>
>No, it really is easy. Try it, it is very easy to do simple ascii-art
>drawings, as anyone in alt.ascii-art will testify. And it's even easier to
>come up with a load of crap jokes.

So what will it be, gentlemen?  A discussion of the 'minimal
originality' necessary to qualify as potentially valuable intellectual
property, or a discourse on the ontological nature of art?  ;-)

>>The only thing the matters with art is, "Do people like it?" 
>>Clearly, everyone on cola likes your art.
>
>No, not art. Just some hastily put together cartoons with some crap jokes.

You obviously don't understand how seriously funny something like that
can be for those who get the jokes.  Hastily put together just means you
can put more together, and nobody's paying you so who cares if they're
crap jokes?

>>Your fan club eagerly awaits your next edition. 
>
>Don't hold you're breath, I'm completely out of ideas.

HOW HARD CAN IT BE????  Crap jokes and hastily put together cartoons,
remember?

>f I was to do
>another one, it would likely be completely different to the first and
>second. The first one was only a few frames, and was more based on a single
>event, with Flatfish always in his tank. 

It is an emerging artform; feel free to experiment.

>However, for the second one I intended to make it someone longer, and more
>of a complete story. Whilst doing this, I completely forgot that Flatfish
>was supposed to be in an aquarium! By the time I'd realised he'd been out
>of water for the whole episode, it was too late to go back. I had to
>completely stretch the story out as well, introducing pointless characters
>like Aaron Kulkis and the people at the airport. Without them padding out
>the story, it would've been much more obvious how weak my material was.

Without Falstaff, Shakespear's Henry IV is a complete load of rubbish.
Let your audience decide what is strong and weak.  But don't believe
them when they say it is weak; you are an *artist*!  ;-)

   [...]
>The idea to have him go to Terry Porter was merely an excuse to draw what I
>always imagined him and his wife to look like, and their living conditions.[...]

Oh, like we didn't know that.  Give us some credit, kid.

>The hijacking of the plane was unplanned as well. [...]

I'll stop there, as I'm ROTFLMAO, from reading that sentence all by
itself.

Thanks for your time.  Hope it helps.

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          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

drsquare pondered a moment and came up with:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:50:52 -0600, in alt.ascii-art,
>  (Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca>) wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, drsquare wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:49:31 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >>  (Michael Vester <mve...@v-wave.com>) wrote:
> >> 
> >> >You have earned some respect and appreciation for your cartoon work. You 
> >> >are humble when receiving praise for your work.  You claim it is easy or it 
> >> >is not that good. The fact that you do find it easy indicates that you have 
> >> >a real talent. 
> >> 
> >> No, it really is easy. Try it, it is very easy to do simple ascii-art
> >> drawings, as anyone in alt.ascii-art will testify. And it's even easier to
> >> come up with a load of crap jokes.
> >
> >	Oof! "Load" of "crap" jokes... punny!  But not puny!
> 
> "punny"?

Filled with puns.

> >	But it was crazy and silly and left-field -- all of it, unexpected
> >and the unexpected is often humourous.
> 
> I don't see how you can find it humourous without being a regular in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy.

I thought it was humo(u)rous.


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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, drsquare wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:50:52 -0600, in alt.ascii-art,
>  (Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca>) wrote:
> 
> >	Oof! "Load" of "crap" jokes... punny!  But not puny!
> 
> "punny"?

	When puns are involved.


> >	But it was crazy and silly and left-field -- all of it, unexpected
> >and the unexpected is often humourous.
> 
> I don't see how you can find it humourous without being a regular in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy.

	Trust me, it was still funny.  I'm Discordian.

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In article <8jg...@4ax.com>, "drsquare"
<now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:50:52 -0600, in alt.ascii-art,
>  (Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca>) wrote:

> I don't see how you can find it humourous without being a regular in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy.

While Taliszanna may not be a regular poster in COLA thus far, we have
just met another of COLA's regular lurkers.  Just like the oort cloud,
they exist unnoticed and in uncountable numbers, but when the right thread
give tug, one or more regular lurkers to the inner COLA system to post. 
Many just return to he oort cloud and may never post again for a long
time, and other may become regular visitors to the inner COLA system and
become known as irregular by requent posters.  While in time some may take
up permanent residence in the inner COLA system.

Taliszanna, welcome to the warmth of the Inner COLA system.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:08:07 +0000, drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:50:52 -0600, in alt.ascii-art,
>>>  (Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca>) wrote:
>>> I don't see how you can find it humourous without being a regular in
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy.
>>
>>	Trust me, it was still funny.  I'm Discordian.
>
>I have no idea what that means.


"I'm Discordian." That means she enjoys discord, strife, arguement.

for every attempt to "flame" her, she hands the antagonist a fresh
pack of matches, rather than letting the thread and "insult" die out.

"Trust me, it was still funny.  I'm Discordian." she means in her reply 
that she liked the discord you foster between WINxx and Linux x.x with
your comic.

drsquare, exactly what do you hold a doctorate in? or is that just
a nickname you have chosen for yourself.
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