Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 28 Sep 2001.
Two dogberts
alt.ascii-art
· 6 messages · 28 Sep 2001 - 29 Sep 2001
Which is better in your opinion?:
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-- Robert
Robert Bowmaker wrote: > > Which is better in your opinion?: They look the same to me... No, wait! Here's one line from both: > _pod** $ $$$$$$o $ $ \\ > _pod** ,$ $$$$$$o ,$' $ \\ ^ ^ ^ | | | `--. .---------------'-' V There are some more "dots" on the second one. I didn't notice that at first. I don't think it makes a big difference. Maybe you could use P and d for the line where you use $ now? (to make the first picture look a little less "pixellated") -- (, http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ /|__--__ . __--__ |\ '__ /|\ _{ _ `.' / `.,_ _________ | _________ _,.' (/ `. / ||``._.' ASCII ART CHAT! `---'|:||,/ .' /| /|:| \ .' /\ \ __ __ _ `/|'\' ` `,/ /`,\ \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ /,'\ \ .'.' /| \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | |\ `.`. ,' / / | \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| | \ \ `, - `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:00:22 +0200, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Robert Bowmaker wrote: >> >> Which is better in your opinion?: > >They look the same to me... > >No, wait! > >Here's one line from both: > >> _pod** $ $$$$$$o $ $ \\ > >> _pod** ,$ $$$$$$o ,$' $ \\ > > ^ ^ ^ > | | | > `--. .---------------'-' > V >There are some more "dots" on the second one. I didn't notice that at >first. I don't think it makes a big difference. Maybe you could use P >and d for the line where you use $ now? (to make the first picture >look a little less "pixellated") those "dots" look like the jave antialias to me :) nice work :) ..but basically marion is right.. try to use P d q b for the lines in the fist pic -- makes the lines less wide and still smooth
> >> Which is better in your opinion?: > > > >They look the same to me... > > > >No, wait! > > > >Here's one line from both: > > > >> _pod** $ $$$$$$o $ $ \\ > > > >> _pod** ,$ $$$$$$o ,$' $ \\ > > > > ^ ^ ^ > > | | | > > `--. .---------------'-' > > V > >There are some more "dots" on the second one. I didn't notice that at > >first. I don't think it makes a big difference. Maybe you could use P > >and d for the line where you use $ now? (to make the first picture > >look a little less "pixellated") > > those "dots" look like the jave antialias to me :) nice work :) > > ..but basically marion is right.. try to use P d q b for the lines in > the fist pic -- makes the lines less wide and still smooth Peter is right .. it does look like the antialias tool and as I know Robert is trying out Jave theese days I'd even bet money on it. I like the antialias'ed version slightly better .. but you need to do touchup work by hand .. Jave is'nt perfect - A human could do much better (well some humans :) ) Try and study how Jave draws the thick and thin curves (not the linedrawn ones.. they still need a lot of work) , they show how to do better antialiasing.
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:28:40 +1200, "Robert Bowmaker" <Rob...@dse.gen.nz> tried to confuse everyone with this message: Hmm... Find 10 differences. >Which is better in your opinion?: > > __,oooooooo,_ > __,od*"` `*bo, > p$***$ _,,, `$o, > $` $,od``** "$ > $ )$ $ bq > $ $ $ $ $ bq > $ $ $**bo$ $ $ > $$_ _,$b, $ $ $ $ > ,,,oo $ `**"` "$,,p* $ $ $ > $ ,,,, $ $ $ > _pod** $ $$$$$$o $ $ \\ > _o*"` $ $$$$$$$ $ $ $ > " ,po$ $$$$$$o $ $ $ > _,od" /" `"** $, qd $ >**ooq _po" $ `""*****"` $ ooo > $" p $ _, > $ $$oq,_ $ o $ "` > \ *, `"**oo,,__ $ " $__,,po$ > *,_ ,,$ ``""*o,,_ $ $ **` ,` > `""*"`` ` ``**q,___ `b ", o$ > `""*oq,,$$ $ $bo*` > $* b$$ > $,, "$o,_ > ""\, ,$ ""**bo > *o,,,,o* >or > > __,oooooooo,_ > __,od*"` `*bo, > ,p$***$"' _,,, `$o, > ,$` `"$,od``**, "$, > $' )$" "$ `bq, > $ $' $, ,$ $, `bq, > $, ,$ ,$**bo$' `$, "$, > ,$$_ _,$b, ,$"' `"$ `$ `$ > ,,,oo ,$" `**"` "$,,p*' $' $, $, > $' ,,,, ,$ `$ `$, > _pod** ,$ $$$$$$o ,$' $ \\ > _o*"` ,$' $$$$$$$ $' $ `$ > " ,po$' $$$$$$o $, ,$ $ > _,od"`/" `"**" `$, qd' $ >**ooq,_po" ,$ `""*****"` $ ooo > `"$" ,p' $ _, > $' $$oq,_ $, o $ "` > \, *, `"**oo,,__ `$ " $__,,po$ > `*,_ ,,$ ``""*o,,_ $, $ `**` ,` > `""*"`` ` ``**q,___ `b, ", ,o$ > `""*oq,,$$ $,,$bo*` > $*' `b$$"' > $,, "$o,_ > ""\, ,$'""**bo > `*o,,,,o*' > >-- Robert > > -- Grue <grue sobaka mail.ru> Mike Throll comic strip at: http://grue.freeservers.com Bugsoft Perm at: http://bugsoft.freeservers.com
Timofei Shatrov wrote: > > Hmm... Find 10 differences. Here are the differences (84 of them): , "' , `" , , ' " " ` , ' , , , ` , , , , ' ` , " , , , "' `" ` ` , " ' ' , , ' , ` ` , , , ' , ' ' ` ' , , ` " ` ' , , `" , ' ' , , ` ` , ` , , ,, ' ` "' ' ` ' And as one can easily verify: That's exactly what Jave adds to Dogbert when applying "antialiasing". The algorithm is quite crude. It only works well with very simple examples like that: 1. XXXXXXXXX 2. ,XXXXXXXXX, 3. ,oOoOoOO8O, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ,XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, ,oo:o:o:ooOoOO88, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ,XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, ,Ooo:::::::ooOoOO88@, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ,XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, ,o:o.:.. ..:.o:ooOO88@, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Ooo::.. . ..::ooOO88@@@ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX oo:o.:.. ..:.o:ooOO88@@ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OoOoo:::::::ooOoOO88@@@ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX `XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX' `OoOoo:o:o:ooOoOO88@8@' XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX `XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX' `8OOoOoOoOoOO8O88@@@' XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" "O8OOOOO8O8O88@@" XXXXXXXXX `"XXXXXXXXX"' `"8@8@8@8@@"' It did not work well here: > > __,oooooooo,_ > > __,od*"` `*bo, > > p$***$ _,,, `$o, > > $` $,od``** "$ > > $ )$ $ bq > > $ $ $ $ $ bq > > $ $ $**bo$ $ $ > > $$_ _,$b, $ $ $ $ > > ,,,oo $ `**"` "$,,p* $ $ $ > > $ ,,,, $ $ $ > > _pod** $ $$$$$$o $ $ \\ > > _o*"` $ $$$$$$$ $ $ $ > > " ,po$ $$$$$$o $ $ $ > > _,od" /" `"** $, qd $ > >**ooq _po" $ `""*****"` $ ooo > > $" p $ _, > > $ $$oq,_ $ o $ "` > > \ *, `"**oo,,__ $ " $__,,po$ > > *,_ ,,$ ``""*o,,_ $ $ **` ,` > > `""*"`` ` ``**q,___ `b ", o$ > > `""*oq,,$$ $ $bo*` > > $* b$$ > > $,, "$o,_ > > ""\, ,$ ""**bo > > *o,,,,o* > >or > > > > __,oooooooo,_ > > __,od*"` `*bo, > > ,p$***$"' _,,, `$o, > > ,$` `"$,od``**, "$, > > $' )$" "$ `bq, > > $ $' $, ,$ $, `bq, > > $, ,$ ,$**bo$' `$, "$, > > ,$$_ _,$b, ,$"' `"$ `$ `$ > > ,,,oo ,$" `**"` "$,,p*' $' $, $, > > $' ,,,, ,$ `$ `$, > > _pod** ,$ $$$$$$o ,$' $ \\ > > _o*"` ,$' $$$$$$$ $' $ `$ > > " ,po$' $$$$$$o $, ,$ $ > > _,od"`/" `"**" `$, qd' $ > >**ooq,_po" ,$ `""*****"` $ ooo > > `"$" ,p' $ _, > > $' $$oq,_ $, o $ "` > > \, *, `"**oo,,__ `$ " $__,,po$ > > `*,_ ,,$ ``""*o,,_ $, $ `**` ,` > > `""*"`` ` ``**q,___ `b, ", ,o$ > > `""*oq,,$$ $,,$bo*` > > $*' `b$$"' > > $,, "$o,_ > > ""\, ,$'""**bo > > `*o,,,,o*' > > > >-- Robert
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