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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art.animation, started 14 Oct 1997.
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SPAM IS NOT FREE SPEECH - ITS JUST FREE ADVERTISING

SPAM IS NOT FREE SPEECH - ITS JUST FREE ADVERTISING

alt.ascii-art.animation · 2 messages · 14 Oct 1997 - 15 Oct 1997
NODAMNSPAM __X__@jgarner.at.utm.edu (J Garner) 14 Oct 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <60adkp$857$1...@bombay.ziplink.net>, hol...@aaaa.net says...
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>FREE SPEECH
He actually means "free advertising".  He wants all net users to pay for him to send 
junk email advertising porn sites, get rich quick pyramid schemes, etc, etc to anyone 
and everyone with an email account.  When this guy pays for my network access, 
then he can tell me what I should and should not receive via email.

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>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 
>prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, 
>or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to 
>petition the Government for a redress of grievances.                   --- 
>Amendment I, The US Constitution
Well, go into a crowded theatre and yell "FIRE!!!" real loud, and then come back and 
write about how your "right to free speech" was censored.  You should realize that 
just because you want to say something, it doesn't necessarily fall under the 
category of "free speech".  Libel and slander laws are another example of curbs on 
your so-called "free speech".  And pretty soon, you and your SPAMMER friends will 
have angered enough people that we will be "petitioning the Government for a 
redress of grievances", to wit' we will be asking for stirct laws against SPAM!


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>There are a few people on the Internet who complain whenever they received 
>unsolicited mail. Many of these individuals are the same people who feel 
>that the World Wide Web, Online Services and the Internet should have never 
>been commercialized. These "computer hippies" resent the presence of 
>businesses on the Internet.
Actually, there are *many* "people on the internet who complain whenever they 
received unsolicited mail".  Most people have no problems whatsoever with 
legitimate, responsible business on the net.  Many of us use the net to advertise our 
own businesses.  However, unsolicited mass emailings from a forged return 
address, using other peoples resources and hijacked mail servers to advertise illegal 
pyramid schemes is *NOT*doing business on the net in a responsible manner.  
People are quite rightly outraged at this type of behavior.


>
>The vast majority of people appreciate short, informative messages about 
>useful new products and/or services and do NOT want any "computer hippies" 
>and immature nerds interfering with their ability to receive potentially 
>valuable information on the Internet since that's what the Internet is 
>supposed to be all about!
This is is simply not true!  The "vast majority of people" *HATE* to receive 
unsolicited junk email (SPAM).  Why do you suppose those spammers are afraid to 
use legitimate return addresses on their advertisements?  Why do you think they 
have been kicked off of numerous access providers?  Why do you think mail 
administrators and IPS's spend so much time blocking SPAM domains?  Because 
the "vast majority of people" complain about them. 

  
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>Whether or not you like receiving E-mail, if you are a true American, then 
>you will fight for anybody's right to do so.  Most Americans and the vast 
>majority of people on the Internet are opposed to imposed censorship in any 
>form.
See my points above about yelling "FIRE!!!" in a crowded theater and the libel and 
slander laws.  Restriction on these forms of speech is not censorship, nor is 
blocking SPAM censorship.  Just because you want to say it, it doesn't mean that 
you have the right to say it to me, especially when I'm paying for my internet access 
and you aren't!!!


>
>We are continually amazed at how quickly people applaud the loss of their 
>freedoms. Without freedom of speech, WE HAVE LOST EVERYTHING our society 
>stands for. If you are irritated by unsolicited E-mails, JUST IGNORE THEM, 
>THIS IS THE COST OF A FREE SOCIETY! PAY YOUR DUES! 
In an ideal society, I would be free *NOT* to be bombarded and deluged with more 
than 50 unsolicited commercial emails daily.  There is a difference between FREE 
SPEECH and FREE ADVERTISING!!!  This SPAM is not free speech, is simply 
greedy leeches taking advantage of the nature of the internet to enrich themselves at 
the expense of others.


>
>One thing that has to be said for E-mail over snail mail,  is that no trees 
>had to be cut down to send E-mail.
It's true that no trees were cut down, but how much time, network bandwidth, disk 
storage space, downloading time, and other resources are wasted by these 
SPAMMERS who want a free advertising ride at the expense of everyone who 
actually pays for their internet connection???!!!



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MageGirl (MageGirl) 15 Oct 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
As Thomas Jefferson once said, "One man's rights end where the next
man's nose begins."

That means that anyone can do whatever they want, within reason, as
long as it does not affect anyone else.

Spamming, by definition, affects everyone who recieves the email,
downloads the header(s) in a newsgroup, or recieves an advertisement
over the Internet.

It's much like a telephone.  you have the "right" to use the
telephone, providing that you pay BellSouth (or whoever it is for
people in other regions) for use of that service, and you have the
"right" to go buy a phone, of any color, with as many features as you
want, provided YOU PAY FOR IT.

If you start calling people (i.e. "telemarketing") about a certain
product, and they ask you not to call them again, you are REQUIRED to
refrian from harassing them again.  Otherwise, you will lose your
phone service, and probably fined heavily by the phone company, and
possibly sued by the harassed party.

Misuse of any right or privilege will result in the negation of your
ability to exercise that right/privilege.

These companies do NOT have the right to post "spam" to inappropriate
areas, or email unsolicited advertisements, as that is misuse of their
right, and an infringement on your rights.

However, be wary of asking the gov't to restrict something.  Liberals,
a.k.a. socialists, like restricting people's personal freedoms.

Let it go no further.
	Magegirl

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