VOTING: rec.arts.ascii ( MODERATED )

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             VOTING:    rec.arts.ascii ( MODERATED )

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The first CFV ( Call For Votes ) has just been issued for the 
proposed newsgroup :

                 rec.arts.ascii ( MODERATED )


It is essential to be very clear on _exactly what_ you are being 
asked to vote for.  

You are _NOT_ simply being asked to vote for ascii-art to be moved 
into the Internet mainstream newsgroups.  


At present ascii-art is being carried by the newsgroup alt.ascii-art 
which is free and open, _not_ a moderated group. Some postings are 
also being made in the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.ascii. 


What you _ARE_ being asked to vote for is a new MODERATED mainstream 
newsgroup, rec.arts.ascii ( moderated ).        ^^^^^^^^^ 



EFFECT on the future of ASCII-ART

Once created, there is no official way to remove either this 
Moderated mainstream newsgroup, or its Moderators - either the 
original moderators or their future replacements.  


   This extract from Ron Dippold's monthly posting entitled 
   "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion" needs careful thought:

     >  Q: How about getting rid of the moderator?

     >  A: There is _no_ official way to get rid of a moderator 
     >     without their consent!  Even if they turn out to be a bum 
     >     who never does anything, you can't replace them.  


If you favour moderation of ascii-art and decide to vote for 
rec.arts.ascii (MODERATED) please realise that it will then be very 
difficult to establish later an _unmoderated_ mainstream newsgroup 
for ascii-art if a mainstream _moderated_ group is created.  



EFFECT on the EXISTING newsgroup ALT.ASCII-ART 

The establishment of a MODERATED mainstream group for ascii-art will 
inevitably have an effect on the present newsgroup ALT.ASCII-ART 
which has already had phenomenal success as a new newsgroup.

All material rejected from the new MODERATED group and all 
dissatisfactions with that MODERATED group will inevitably get 
dumped into ALT.ASCII-ART, to the existing newsgroup's detriment.  

Also, a _mainstream_ group, either moderated _or_ unmoderated, has no 
provision for all the ascii-art postings which require a binary 
format, like vt animations containing escape codes; executable 
programs; ansi pictures and animations; and large files and 
collections which call for compression and archive format - which 
changes them to binary files.  

All this material will again have to be "dumped" somewhere in the alt. 
hierarchy. It will not be acceptable in the mainstream group.



STATUS of the newsgroup ALT.ASCII-ART

In just a few months, since its first appearance in September 1993, 
the existing newsgroup, ALT.ASCII-ART, has achieved a Site 
propagation level of 44% and an estimated current readership of 
84,000. It has a high signal-to-noise ratio and it is growing 
rapidly. It is a free, open and unmoderated newsgroup.

Unfortunately not all users of ALT.ASCII-ART are content with the 
existing newsgroup and wish to have ASCII-ART moderated to exclude  
postings they prefer not to see. These users are the proponents for 
the new newsgroup rec.arts.ascii ( MODERATED ).  


THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU VOTE !

The estimated 84,000 readers of the newsgroup alt.ascii-art ( and 
others who intend to vote ) should think very carefully about
which way they should vote on this proposal for a MODERATED newsgroup.  

The proponents of the new group have announced, in the CFV, that 
they will be seeking votes from the Figlet Mailing List: 

  CFV> After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups, it will 
  CFV> be sent to the Figlet mailing list maintained by Ian Chai, 
  CFV> and to Bob Allison's list of users and fans of ASCII art.  

This is a legitimate tactic to gain votes from users with a vested 
interest in having unwanted material excluded from the newsgroup 
before they receive news. The ultimate danger is that these mailing 
list users will exert undue influence on Moderators of a moderated 
newsgroup to exclude certain postings sent to the newsgroup.


-------------- Extract from the CFV ( Call For Votes ) ------------- 

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   vot...@dogwood.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.arts.ascii
      I vote NO on rec.arts.ascii

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the 
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote 
counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received 
ballots with a personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not 
receive one within several days, try again.  It's your 
responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses 
and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting 
results list. Votes from system accounts and anonymous votes cannot 
be accepted.  

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.

-------------------- End of extract from CFV -----------------------



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            Think carefully....then vote carefully !
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Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.


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