Re: ascii art underground

____     On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:48:46 GMT
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>> Err but I don't think his site being non compliant with text based
>> browsers is a "real issue for the scene."
>
>He said it was an ascii group.  Ascii groups should have ascii sites.

Really? According to who? I've never heard of that before. I've seen
many ascii sites with graphics and things and no one's complained.

>Its part of the idea.  After a while he addmitted that their is indead
>a differance between ANSI and ASCII.  While you can have ascii art in
>ANSI you can not have ANSI in ASCII.  And if you go back and read that
>very first post again you will see that it was in need of a lot of
>improvement on both is feeling and its accuracy.

The truth behind it was clear to anyone who isn't completely stupid.

>> If you read them in depth you will find that he invited ascii artists
>> to join his ANSI group and was accused of being a spammer and posting
>> off topic art and all sorts of other insane things.
>
>      Message-ID: <a%ek9.715$GU5...@twister.columbus.rr.com>
>                                                
>       why not check out                 ********1
>       www.acid.org and download Remorse ascii art pack #46 make
>       sure you have an
>       ***********2        *******************3
>       ascii viewer with a built in ansi driver
>       you can grab those at
>       www.thugelife.org download ACiDView =)
>                   *********4
>       this is the true ascii underground scene, and remorse is
>       looking for members 
>                ********5          ***************6
>       of GREAT ascii art, why not send me an email
>       Pal...@hotmail.com
>       or
>       Pal...@acid.org
>       if you are interested, and are GOOD
>       if you use a GIF2ascii program or anything to the likes of
>       that, don't bother
>
>1 = ascii art != ansi art

Irrelevant. Any primate can see that he is talking about what is
commonly referred to as ANSI art.

>2 = ascii viewer == any text based browser or text editor using fixed
>    fonts 

Well done.

>3 = built in ansi driver == WTF?  I have to have a special "driver"
>    for ansi.  I may be a bit over the top here but a driver manages
>    the the interaction between software and hardware.   Why would a
>    driver be needed?

Because before the days of Jave ascii/ANSI editors were all DOS based.
Any the most popular ANSI editors (ACiDDraw, The Draw etc) still are.
And to view ANSI in DOS you need to have ansi.sys loaded in your
config.sys.
If you didn't know this and you didn't know who ACiD were and what
they did then you really have no say in how ascii groups should
conduct themselves and what are and are not "major issues for the
scene." Newbie.

>More to the point why does one need an "ANSI
>    driver" to view ascii art?

This is irrelevant, any person of mild intelligence would have known
what type of art he was referring to.

>4 = true ascii != ANSI

True ascii scene != anal.

>5 = ascii art != ansi art

So he's not allowed to recruit ascii artists?

>6 = send me an email == Complete newbie to Usenet or a spamer trying
>    to harvest email addresses.  Either way a total breach of
>    netiquette. 

According to who, newbie?
And who would take all that time customising a message like that just
for the email addresses of a few ascii artists wanting to join ACiD?
He would have gotten more addresses if he just went through the group
copying them from peoples' headers. It would have been faster too.
Why do you keep failing to see the plainly obvious?

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