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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 11 Oct 2002.
Re: ascii art underground

Re: ascii art underground

 _.--- Bateau spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
> ____     On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:12:53 GMT
> \__/___  Faux_Pseudo ran through the
>  LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art
>      |   waving an axe and screaming:
>     / \
>> _.--- Bateau spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
>>> <ANSI vs ASCII>
>>> They're very similar. Don't be such fucking nazis. It's not like he's
>>> flooding the group with ANSI art. He's just trying to do something for
>>> the fucking scene.
>>
>>One of the best things a person can do for any scene is accurately
>>represent it.  
> 
> So everyone in the scene should do nothing but pure ascii art in case
> some cock like you mistakes their efforts as THE ENTIRE SCENE and gets
> the wrong idea?

You wait a week to call me a cock?  Damn.  You must really like me.

Anyway all things are relative.  THIS group is an ASCII group.  He
came in advertising ASCII but made other comments that did not lend
weight to the idea that ASCII was actually what he meant.  What he
meant was ANSI.  This group and my ideas do not represent the entire
scene.  But in his posts he claimed to represent the whole scene
(ASCII/ANSI) but was unable to differentiate between the two and
maintained that they were interchangeable.  Would you vote for a guy who
ran under the idea of being a Democrat and then stepping up to the
ballot and finding a (R) next to his name?  One must accurately
represent what they are selling.  He was selling ANSI but advertising
ASCII.  That is not good for the scene.  Especially in an ASCII group.

And please refrain from the ad hominem attacks.  They don't do much
to strengthen your arguments.

> 
>>If I told someone to wear their favorite tie dye shirt to the goth
>>club we will be going to then he is going to be really pissed of find
>>that I misrepresented the situation.  
> 
> I fail to see the analogy seeing as pure ascii art is perfectly
> acceptable to the ANSI scene.

But ANSI is not acceptable in THIS ASCII GROUP.  This group gets
pissed about non-ascii char sets, groups.google colorized art.  You
name it.  This is alt.ascii-art, and not alt.ansi-art.  ASCII existed
before ANSI and while ASCII is a subset of ANSI just as a square is a
rectangle a rectangle is not always a square.

> Not to mention that all ascii characters are available to ANSI artists
> and frequently make up virtually their entire works.

ANSI can be ASCII but it doesn't work the other way.  

> I've seen a lot
> of ANSI artists that guys like you consider "off topic" who make
> better pure ascii art than you and the other whingers put together.

And that is all fine and good.  I haven't got a problem with ANSI
art.  I haven't got a problem with ANSI artists who also do ASCII
art.  I have a problem with people advertising ASCII and then offering
ANSI and not knowing (much less acknowledging) the difference.  Add to
that a web site that isn't even compliant to text based browsers
(Which I use) and we are looking at some real issues for the scene.  

> Because your text editor is not a person. And apparently neither are
> you if you can't get past the technical differences.

The world (especially art and computers) revolve around technical
differences.  And I have been called an unperson before so you will
have to try harder if it is your intent to continue the ad hominem
attacks. 

>>I like some ANSI art.  I 
>>don't have a problem with it.  But just as Gogan and Van Gogh who
>>where working together with the same paints and same scenes they are
>>two different animals with two different ideas and visions.
> 
> So why do you have a problem with Palmore inviting ascii artists to
> join an ANSI group? A good ascii artist will probably be far better at

Because it was advertised as an ascii group and not an ansi one.  And
that a the site he offered won't even display on a text browser or
mozilla (netscape based browser for those not in the know).  

> ANSI than someone who's tried neither. God damn you're such a fuckwit
> and I can't believe you're wasting my time like this.

Because I am a trained professional.

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