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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 11 Dec 1997.
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Mancala board

Mancala board

alt.ascii-art · 31 messages · 11 Dec 1997 - 19 Dec 1997
Elvis <dpr...@mail.webspan.net> ASCII art 11 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Hi,

Been lurking for a few years.  I really enjoy the ascii art I find here. 
I took a stab at some ascii here.  Comments are welcome.  What I'm trying
to do is explain the game of Mancala to a friend by email.  With a little
cutting and pasting, I hope to get a game going.  You could cut and paste
moves like I did near the bottom.  It could work.  You could have the
whole game in ascii.  Anyway, what I need is someone who knows how to play
mancala to try this out and see if it makes sense, and someone who doesn't
know how to play to try it out.  Pretty much I want to make sure that
the Ascii is easy to follow.  It's simple to learn but challenging
enough to keep your mind sharp.  At worst, you learn a new game.  Thanks. 



                                              __o                 
                                            _`\<,_     --- Dave
Thangyuh.  Thangyuh vurry mudge.  .  .  .  (*)/ (*)
Bermuda likes my sig!!!   Bermuda likes my sig!!!   Bermuda likes my sig!!!




The board:
 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]   ____  \
/ |    |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   |    | \
/          [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


Normally this is lying flat on a table, not vertical on a computer 
screen.  So imagine it flat.  And wooden.  And 3-D.  Those little
cutouts that I drew are actually carved out of the wood, like little
pockets to hold the stones.  

There are two players.  Each sits on opposite sides of the board.
The sides are the long sides drawn here. Your side consists of six
holes and your home.  

 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]   ____  \
/ |    |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   |home| \  
/          [_1__]  [_2__]  [_3__]  [_4__]  [_5__]  [_6__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


I (your opponent) have the same setup as you on the other side.
The object is to get the most stones into your home.

Here's where the game varies.  For sake of illustrating, (and 
because that's how I usually play)  we'll start with four stones.
I'll use numbers instead of stones.

 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]   ____  \
/ |    |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   |    | \  
/          [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


Play moves counterclockwise.  The object is to get the most stones
in your home.  Pick up all the stones in one of the holes on your side
and place one in each of the holes including your home (but excluding
mine) in a counterclockwise fashion.

Example:
 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]   ____  \
/ |    |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   |    | \  
/          [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\

    Let's say that            ^
    you choose               /|\ 
    this one                  |
        ______________________|


The board after you move will look like this:
 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]  [_4__]   ____  \
/ |    |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 1  | \  
/          [_4__]  [_4__]  [_0__]  [_5__]  [_5__]  [_5__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


Get the hang of it?   
There are a couple of rules.

1.  Game is over once all holes on your side are empty.  

2.  You can only pick up stones from your side.

3.  If the last stone you place lands in your home, you go again.  
So in the above example, it would still be your turn.

4.  If your last stone lands in an empty space on your side,  you
get to put that stone in your home.  You also get everything directly
opposite that spot.  Then your turn is over.


Example:  Pretend after playing a while our board looks like this:

 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_0__]  [_2__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_3__]   ____  \
/ | 20 |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 19 | \  
/          [_0__]  [_4__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\

    Let's say that   ^
    you choose      /|\ 
    this one         |
        _____________|


The board after you move will look like this:
 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_0__]  [_2__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_3__]   ____  \
/ | 20 |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 19 | \  
/          [_0__]  [_0__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


You get that last one in the last spot and the three directly opposite
of it.  So now it looks like this. 
 __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_0__]  [_2__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]   ____  \
/ | 20 |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 23 | \  
/          [_0__]  [_0__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_0__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\


And it's my turn (yay!).  I have one choice.  

  __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_1__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]   ____  \
/ | 21 |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 23 | \  
/          [_0__]  [_0__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_0__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\

I go again.

  __________________________________________________________________
/  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
/ |    |   [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]  [_0__]   ____  \
/ | 22 |                                                   |    | \
/ |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   | 23 | \  
/          [_0__]  [_0__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_1__]  [_0__]  |____| \
/_________________________________________________________________\

Uh oh, my side is empty.  Game is over.  You get to keep the remaining
three on your side.  22 to 26.  Good game.  You win.

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 12 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Elvis wrote:
[snip]
> whole game in ascii.  Anyway, what I need is someone who knows how to play
> mancala to try this out and see if it makes sense, and someone who doesn't
> know how to play to try it out.  Pretty much I want to make sure that
> the Ascii is easy to follow. 
[snip]
> The board:
>  __________________________________________________________________
> /  ____     ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____          \
> / |    |   [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]   ____  \
> / |    |                                                   |    | \
> / |____|    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____    ____   |    | \
> /          [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  [____]  |____| \
> /_________________________________________________________________\

I know the game but ain't no professional. :)
Your ascii explanation seems to be correct as far as I know.
Don't worry. Good work.

BTW : I put it into my collection, too. 

:)
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David Day <dav...@micron.net> ASCII art 12 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Um, here is a board...
  _______________________________________
 | ______ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ______ |
 ||      |___|___|___|___|___|___|      ||
 ||      |___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___|      ||
 ||______|___|___|___|___|___|___|______||
 |_______________________________________|
It is a simpler one to make...
   -Sarah :^|
PS-...

David Day <dav...@micron.net> ASCII art 12 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Also, here is a chess board using the same concept. (This is better looking
than my mancala board!)

Chess board:
_1________2________3________4________5________6________7________8______
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|
            | Rook   |Knight##|Bishop  |#King###| Queen  |#Bishop#| Knight
|##Rook##|1
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|

|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|
            |#Pawn###| Pawn   |#Pawn###| Pawn   |#Pawn###| Pawn   |#Pawn###|
Pawn   |2
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|

|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|3
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|

|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|4
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|

|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|5
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|

|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|6
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|

|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|7
            |        |########|        |########|        |########|
|########|

|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|
            |#Rook###| Knight |#Bishop#| King   |#Queen##| Bishop |#Knight#|
Rook   |8
            |########|        |########|        |########|        |########|
|

|########|________|########|________|########|________|########|________|
   -Sarah
PS-Hope it shows up right! :^(

David Day <dav...@micron.net> ASCII art 12 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
                      ^
                     / \
                    / _ \
                   / //  \
                  / /(    \
                 ( ( \     )
                  \ \_\   /
                   \_____/
   -Sarah
PS- This is a tear.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! MY COMPUTER SUCKS WITH PASTING ASCII!
   -Sarah :^(
PS-I worked for an hour to perfect the chess board! I am near tears!

Elvis wrote:
>
> 
> 1.  Game is over once all holes on your side are empty.
> 
> 2.  You can only pick up stones from your side.
> 
> 3.  If the last stone you place lands in your home, you go again.
> So in the above example, it would still be your turn.
> 
> 4.  If your last stone lands in an empty space on your side,  you
> get to put that stone in your home.  You also get everything directly
> opposite that spot.  Then your turn is over.
> 

hmm... I know that since mancala is not a widely known game, and it
comes from two different parts of the world (Africa and The Middle East
both have it, but the middle easters play with 9 spaces to a side
instead of six) the rules may vary, but I just thought I'd share how I
learned


1.  Game is over once all stones are in one of the home spaces.  

2.  You can only pick up stones from your side.

3.  If the last stone you place lands in your home, you go again.  
So in the above example, it would still be your turn. It would also
continue to be your turn if you end in a space on your side of the
board. You would pick up the pieces in that space and continue with your
turn.

4.  If your last stone lands in an empty space on your side, You get to
move the pieces directly opposite that space from the opponent's side to
yours. Then your turn is over.

I believe the way I learned it has more of a middle eastern twist to it
(since I learned on a middle eastern board, even though I own an African
board), but I could be wrong. The visuals were excellent.

naenia

In article <66svp7$ns6$1...@news01.micron.net>, David Day
<dav...@micron.net> writes
>Also, here is a chess board using the same concept. (This is better looking
>than my mancala board!)

In your opinion; it came out chewed up and misaligned.  For chess, 
think of the boards used for chess puzzles (or indeed game examples)
in magazines. I'm no chessplayer, so I'll have to go by memory
that the peices are notated as
   R = rook     P = pawn
   N = knight
   B = bishop
   K = king
   Q = queen
And I'll precede them with a # if black an ' if white
Try out a board just using letters
    ________________________________
   |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |   
 8 |:#R: #N :#B: #K :#Q: #B :#N: #R |
   |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
 7 | #p :#p: #p :#p: #p :#p: #p :#p:|
   |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |
 6 |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |
   |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
 5 |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
 ~ |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |
 4 |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |
   |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
 3 |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
   |::::    ::::    ::::    ::::    |
 2 |:'p: 'p :'p: 'p :'p: 'p :'p: 'p |
   |    ::::    ::::    ::::    ::::|
 1 | 'R :'N: 'B :'K: 'Q :'B: 'N :'R:|
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      a   b   c   d,  e   f   g   h

I tried only 3 wide, but it is naff -- very unsquare.

To use "real" grafic pieces they could only be 3 characters high
  ...................................................
  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: |M|  ;:\W/:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  8:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;
  ;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  7  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:;_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:;
  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  6::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;      
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  5      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  :______;;;;;;______;;;;;;;______;;;;;;______;;;;;;;
  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  4::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  3      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  2::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_;:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_;      
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :[M]::; \W/  :(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
  1 /_\  :/_\:: /_\  :/_\::; /_\  :/_\:: /_\  :/_\::;
  :[___]_[___]:[___]_[___]:;[___]_[___]:[___]_[___]:;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''       

This could be used to play chess by email.

(Or perhaps someone wants to play a game on a newsgroup thread here?)

                                            |~/           |~/
~~|;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;||';-._.-;'^';||_.-;'^'0-|~~
P |      Woof Woof, Glug Glug               ||____________||      0  | P
O |   Who Drowned the Judge's Dog?          | . . . . . . . '----. 0 | O
O |         answers on                  *---|_______________  @__o0  | O
L |{a href="news:alt.religion.scientology"}{/a}_____________|/_______| L
and{a href="http://www.xemu.demon.co.uk/clam/lynx/q0.html"}{/a}XemuSP4(:)

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 16 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <cER...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
<dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <oQS...@xemu.demon.co.uk>, Dave Bird---St Hippo of
> Augustine <Dev...@xemu.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >To use "real" grafic pieces they could only be 3 characters high
> >  ...................................................
> >  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: |M|  ;:\W/:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
> >  8:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;
> >  ;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;
[snip]
> These are excellent, great work :-)
> One small mistake though - the board is the wrong way round,
> there should be a white square in the bottom right.
> 
> >This could be used to play chess by email.
> >
> >(Or perhaps someone wants to play a game on a newsgroup thread here?)
> It would be interesting to see different variations of the game
> developing in parallel as different people replied. Don't know
> how long it would be considered on-topic though?
> 
> I've turned the board around and made an opening move below:
> 
>   ...................................................
>   ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
>   8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
>   ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
>   ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
>   7::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
>   ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
>   ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>   6      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>   ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
>   ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   5::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
>   ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
>   4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
>   ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
>   ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   3::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
>   ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
>   2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
>   ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
>   ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
>   1:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
>   :[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
>   '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''
> 

>  { { wwWWww } }   David Riley   dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk
>   { {(.)(.)} }                  http://www.dmriley.demon.co.uk

I'll bite. (But I warn you, I'm a terrible player and can just manage to
think one turn in advance.)

  ...................................................
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
  8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
  ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  6      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::  ()  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  5::::::      ::::::  /\  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::_[##]_;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
  4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  3::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  1:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
  :[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''

Those figures _are_ good. These are the smallest I've come up with (and
the black pieces are less successful):

                                .      +
       []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
       )(       )(   "-=\~      )(     )(       ()
       )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
ejm97 /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\

                                .      +
       []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
       )(       )(   "-X\~      )(     )(       ()
       )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
ejm97 /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\


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       llizard aka ejm   cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
        http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
                       _,,
             /.  /   /"-X\~  / + /   /   /   /
 Check &    /_()/___/___)(__/__()___/___/___/
 Guardez!  /  )(   /   /XX\/   )(  /   /   /
          /___)(__/___/___/___/)(_/___/___/
         /   /__\/   /   /   //__\   /   /
ejm97   /___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/

Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> ASCII art 16 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard wrote:
> David Riley wrote:
> > Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine writes
> > >
> > >To use "real" grafic pieces they could only be 3 characters high
> > >  ...................................................
> > >  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: |M|  ;:\W/:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
> > >  8:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;
> > >  ;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;
[ 8< ]
> >
> >   ...................................................
> >   ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
> >   8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
> >   ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
> >   ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
> >   7::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
> >   ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
[ 8< ]
> >   ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
> >   2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
> >   ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
> >   ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
> >   1:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
> >   :[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
> >   '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''
[ 8< ]
> Those figures _are_ good. These are the smallest I've come up with (and
> the black pieces are less successful):
> 
>                                 .      +
>        []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
>        )(       )(   "-=\~      )(     )(       ()
>        )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
> ejm97 /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\
> 
>                                 .      +
>        []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
>        )(       )(   "-X\~      )(     )(       ()
>        )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
> ejm97 /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\
> 

I don't know anything about chess but here is my attempt (with two
versions of black pieces, I can't decide which one I like best):

  \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
  ) (    ) (   ) (   ) '   | |   ( )
 /___\  /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\


  \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
  )#(    )#(   )#(   )#'   |#|   (#)
 /###\  /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\


  \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
  )8(    )8(   )8(   )8'   |8|   (8)
 /888\  /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\

-- 
              _                                         _
  __   ___.--'_`.  __   __                _           .'_`--.___   __
 ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
 _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/

Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> ASCII art 16 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson wrote:
[ 8< ]
> I don't know anything about chess but here is my attempt (with two
> versions of black pieces, I can't decide which one I like best):
> 
>   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
>   ) (    ) (   ) (   ) '   | |   ( )
>  /___\  /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\
> 
>   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
>   )#(    )#(   )#(   )#'   |#|   (#)
>  /###\  /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\
> 
>   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
>   )8(    )8(   )8(   )8'   |8|   (8)
>  /888\  /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\
> 

And here's a smaller version:


  VV    vv   ()   (\   []    
  )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
 /__\  /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\

  VV    vv   ()   (\   []    
  )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
 /##\  /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\

-- 
              _                                         _
  __   ___.--'_`.  __   __                _           .'_`--.___   __
 ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
 _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/

Neat idea, but I still find this board and pieces a little clumsy, and hard to deal with.   I suggest this, if you are serious about
playin:

             R  Kn  B  K  Q  P

For a real game you would have to be color specific, so you might either add a small case b for black, or some symbol, or use
capital for one color, and small case for the other.

     Jonathon R. Oglesbee
ogl...@fullnet.net-remove to reply

# for black and * for white may work....I will play someone by e-mail! I am
at sar...@micron.net!
    -Sarah :^)

David Riley <dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 16 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <oQS...@xemu.demon.co.uk>, Dave Bird---St Hippo of
Augustine <Dev...@xemu.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>To use "real" grafic pieces they could only be 3 characters high
>  ...................................................
>  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: |M|  ;:\W/:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
>  8:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;:/#\:: /#\  :/#\:: /#\  ;
>  ;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;[###]:[###]_[###]:[###]_;
>  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;
>  7  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
>  ;_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:;_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:;
>  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>  6::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;      
>  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>  5      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>  :______;;;;;;______;;;;;;;______;;;;;;______;;;;;;;
>  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>  4::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
>  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>  3      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>  ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
>  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
>  2::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
>  ;:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_;:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_;      
>  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :[M]::; \W/  :(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
>  1 /_\  :/_\:: /_\  :/_\::; /_\  :/_\:: /_\  :/_\::;
>  :[___]_[___]:[___]_[___]:;[___]_[___]:[___]_[___]:;
>  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''       
>
These are excellent, great work :-)
One small mistake though - the board is the wrong way round,
there should be a white square in the bottom right.

>This could be used to play chess by email.
>
>(Or perhaps someone wants to play a game on a newsgroup thread here?)
It would be interesting to see different variations of the game
developing in parallel as different people replied. Don't know
how long it would be considered on-topic though?

I've turned the board around and made an opening move below:

  ...................................................
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
  8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
  ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  7::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  6      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  5::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
  4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  3::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;      
  ;:["]:: [@Zn :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  1:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
  :[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''       

[sorry no pictures of my own - I've just managed to delete
the only new one I've done for ages :-( ]

-- 
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  { {(.)(.)} }                  http://www.dmriley.demon.co.uk
   { {  | } }
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miK <mmi...@dataweb.nl> ASCII art 17 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote:

>And here's a smaller version:


>  VV    vv   ()   (\   []    
>  )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
> /__\  /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\

>  VV    vv   ()   (\   []    
>  )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
> /##\  /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\ vk


Here's a diddle on a 2-line set of chess pieces (dunno why you ppl want a 3-line set,
i must be missing something here).

    _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_
    (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_)

    ["] {`\ (\) \^/ \+/ (/) /`) ["]
    )_( )_( )_( )_( )_( )_( )_( )_(


    ["] {`\ (\) \^/ \+/ (/) /`) ["]
    (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o)

    _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_ _O_
    (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o) (o)        (Staunton goes small ascii)


But let's get on with the game...


    llizard                  canada

   :["]:{%\:(\):\^/:\+/:(/):/%):["]:
  8:(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):
   :_O_:_O_:_O_:   :_O_:_O_:_O_:_O_:
  7:(o):(o):(o):   :(o):(o):(o):(o):
   :   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::
  6:   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::
   :::::   :::::_O_:::::   :::::   :
  5:::::   :::::(o):::::   :::::   :
   :   :::::   :::::_O_:::::   :::::
  4:   :::::   :::::(_):::::   :::::
   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::   :
  3:::::   :::::   :::::   :::::   :
   :_O_:_O_:_O_:_O_:   :_O_:_O_:_O_:
  2:(_):(_):(_):(_):   :(_):(_):(_):
   :["]:{`\:(\):\^/:\+/:(/):/`):["]:
  1:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:
    A   B   C   D   E   F   G   H

    david reilly                 uk


    1. e4 d5          (scandinavian)
    2. ..       (is the white penguin gonna hit?)

When every successive move is being played with a new set of chess pieces, there's no
such thing as getting off-topic ;)

good luck to both,
mic

miK <mmi...@dataweb.nl> 17 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
"Jonathon R. Oglesbee" <ogl...@fullnet.net-removetoreply> wrote:

>Neat idea, but I still find this board and pieces a little clumsy, and hard to deal with.   I suggest this, if you are serious about
>playin:

>             R  Kn  B  K  Q  P

>For a real game you would have to be color specific, so you might either add a small case b for black, or some symbol, or use
>capital for one color, and small case for the other.

>     Jonathon R. Oglesbee
>ogl...@fullnet.net-remove to reply


I'm dead serious bout playing, but when you throw in R N and so on this thing really
isn't ASCII art anymore. We'd better play a game of e-mail chess then - i'd like that
and i promise i won't cheat ;)

cheers,
mic
mi...@dataweb.nl

removed the reply

miK <mmi...@dataweb.nl> 17 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
mmi...@dataweb.nl (miK) wrote:

>    llizard                  canada

>   :["]:{%\:(\):\^/:\+/:(/):/%):["]:
>  8:(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):(o):
>   :_O_:_O_:_O_:   :_O_:_O_:_O_:_O_:
>  7:(o):(o):(o):   :(o):(o):(o):(o):
>   :   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::
>  6:   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::
>   :::::   :::::_O_:::::   :::::   :
>  5:::::   :::::(o):::::   :::::   :
>   :   :::::   :::::_O_:::::   :::::
>  4:   :::::   :::::(_):::::   :::::
>   :::::   :::::   :::::   :::::   :
>  3:::::   :::::   :::::   :::::   :
>   :_O_:_O_:_O_:_O_:   :_O_:_O_:_O_:
>  2:(_):(_):(_):(_):   :(_):(_):(_):
>   :["]:{`\:(\):\^/:\+/:(/):/`):["]:
>  1:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:)_(:
>    A   B   C   D   E   F   G   H

>    david reilly                 uk

typo... Riley

yes, i adressed to Hayley as Hailey...
and told you Shanaka was female...

Well, at least I'm sure about 2 things:
llizard is spelled with 2ll's as in Elizabeth ll
and Veronica is from Finland.

%/), mic

David Riley <dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 17 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
<cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
>I'll bite. (But I warn you, I'm a terrible player and can just manage to
>think one turn in advance.)
[llizard's move snipped]
Knight to the rescue:
                  ,_
             ()  /(.\
            /\__/_/\,)
        _,-((-'` /
       /(   d    )
       ` \ /`'--\\
          ))     ))
         //      ^
         ^
  ...................................................
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
  8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
  ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  6      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::  ()  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  5::::::      ::::::  /\  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::_[##]_;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
  4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
  ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
  :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''

>Those figures _are_ good. These are the smallest I've come up with (and
>the black pieces are less successful):
>
>                                .      +
>       []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
>       )(       )(   "-=\~      )(     )(       ()
>       )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
>ejm97 /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\   /__\     /__\
>
>                                .      +
>       []       ()    _,,       ()     ()
>       )(       )(   "-X\~      )(     )(       ()
>       )(       )(     )(       )(     )(       )(
>ejm97 /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\   /XX\     /XX\
>
>
I like these too but I think Dave's are better for
playing with as the different pieces are more distinct.

>                       _,,
>             /.  /   /"-X\~  / + /   /   /   /
> Check &    /_()/___/___)(__/__()___/___/___/
> Guardez!  /  )(   /   /XX\/   )(  /   /   /
>          /___)(__/___/___/___/)(_/___/___/
>         /   /__\/   /   /   //__\   /   /
>ejm97   /___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/

This has just reminded me of an "impossible chess"
picture from an illusions book (I've been enjoying
all the illusion pictures here lately :-). It went
something like <checks in book> this:

                     _____
                    /\    \
             _____ /  \____\
             \    \  /`\    \
              \____\/___\____\
               \    \    \    \
                \____\____\____\

and using your pieces:
                       +
                       ()
                       )(
                     __)(_
                    /\/__\\
             ____()/  \____[]
             \   )(  /`\   )(
              \__)(\/___\__)(\
               \/__\\    \/XX\\
                \____\____\____\

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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 17 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <HNr...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
<dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
> <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
> >I'll bite. (But I warn you, I'm a terrible player and can just manage to
> >think one turn in advance.)
> [llizard's move snipped]
> Knight to the rescue:
>                   ,_
>              ()  /(.\
>             /\__/_/\,)
>         _,-((-'` /
>        /(   d    )
>        ` \ /`'--\\
>           ))     ))
>          //      ^
>          ^
>   ...................................................
>   ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\):: [@Zn :["]::;
>   8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\:: /#\  :/#\::;
>   ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:[###] [###]:;
>   ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
>   7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
>   ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
>   ;      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>   6      ::::::      ::::::;      ::::::      ::::::;
>   ;______::::::______::::::;______::::::______::::::;
>   ;::::::      ::::::  ()  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   5::::::      ::::::  /\  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   ;::::::______::::::_[##]_;::::::______::::::______;
>   ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
>   4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
>   ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
>   ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
>   ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
>   ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
>   2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
>   ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
>   ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
>   1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
>   :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
>   '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''
> 
[snip]
> --
>  { { wwWWww } }   David Riley   dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk
>   { {(.)(.)} }                  http://www.dmriley.demon.co.uk
.
                           _
                        _ ( )
                       |   \
          !        || /|    \
        ,^@@--- \ /||/ |_    |
      \_<_  \    / ||\ |     |
         >\         | \|     |
         >,^           |_    /
        /|                (_/
ejm97  / \

I thought several people were going to play. I'll do another move
       _,,
      "-=\~
       _ \\~
       _\|/\
       \  \ \
           ( )~~~ 
           | \
       ___/__/___
     _|  ejm97   |_
    |______________|

  ...................................................
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\)::      :["]::;
  8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\::      :/#\::;
  ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:______[###]:;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      :[@Zn:      ::::::;
  6      ::::::      ::::::;      :/#\::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______[###]:______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::  ()  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  5::::::      ::::::  /\  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::_[##]_;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
  4      ::::::      ::::::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::()::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
  ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
  :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''

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In article <HNr...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
<dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
> <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
[snip]
> >                       _,,
> >             /.  /   /"-X\~  / + /   /   /   /
> > Check &    /_()/___/___)(__/__()___/___/___/
> > Guardez!  /  )(   /   /XX\/   )(  /   /   /
> >          /___)(__/___/___/___/)(_/___/___/
> >         /   /__\/   /   /   //__\   /   /
> >ejm97   /___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/
> 
> This has just reminded me of an "impossible chess"
> picture from an illusions book (I've been enjoying
> all the illusion pictures here lately :-). It went
> something like <checks in book> this:
> 
>                      _____
>                     /\    \
>              _____ /  \____\
>              \    \  /`\    \
>               \____\/___\____\
>                \    \    \    \
>                 \____\____\____\
> 
> and using your pieces:
>                        +
>                        ()
>                        )(
>                      __)(_
>                     /\/__\\
>              ____()/  \____[]
>              \   )(  /`\   )(
>               \__)(\/___\__)(\
>                \/__\\    \/XX\\
>                 \____\____\____\
> 
> --
>  { { wwWWww } }   David Riley   dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk
>   { {(.)(.)} }                  http://www.dmriley.demon.co.uk

I like the board (even if I don't quite understand it). But it doesn't
seem like a very dangerous position for White. Couldn't White just take
the black rook and that would be the end of it?


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miK wrote:
> mmi...@dataweb.nl (miK) wrote:
[ 8< ]
> 
> >    david reilly                 uk
> 
> typo... Riley
> 
> yes, i adressed to Hayley as Hailey...
> and told you Shanaka was female...
> 
> Well, at least I'm sure about 2 things:
> llizard is spelled with 2ll's as in Elizabeth ll
> and Veronica is from Finland.
> 
> %/), mic

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David Day wrote:
> 
> Still waiting for e-mail chess if you want to pla...@micron.net!
>    -Sarah

Just because you ask for it doesn't mean you'll get it. Why not try a
chess newsgroup instead. A simple search for "chess newsgroups" in Alta
Vista gives 75 replies...


At http://www.chessmail.com/chesslink.html I find this info:

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In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
<cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
>In article <HNr...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
><dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>                        +
>>                        ()
>>                        )(
>>                      __)(_
>>                     /\/__\\
>>              ____()/  \____[]
>>              \   )(  /`\   )(
>>               \__)(\/___\__)(\
>>                \/__\\    \/XX\\
>>                 \____\____\____\
>> 
>
>I like the board (even if I don't quite understand it). But it doesn't
>seem like a very dangerous position for White. Couldn't White just take
>the black rook and that would be the end of it?
It's just supposed to be an illusion - the two white pieces are both
on the same level as the black rook, but not on the same level as
each other (the queen is higher).

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David Riley <dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 18 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
<cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
>                           _
>                        _ ( )
>                       |   \
>          !        || /|    \
>        ,^@@--- \ /||/ |_    |
>      \_<_  \    / ||\ |     |
>         >\         | \|     |
>         >,^           |_    /
>        /|                (_/
>ejm97  / \
>
>I thought several people were going to play. I'll do another move
So did I, any voluteers? (I'll do another one too)

Your horse appears to have thrown it's rider in panic :-p
              _,,
             "-=\~
   _          _ \\~
  (e} _,      _\|/\                   (this bit may be
  /\\/p|====- \  \ \                   too UK specific)
 /_/\/            ( )~~~                    | 
( |               | \                 "...my kingdom
 \|           ___/__/___                / for a horse" etc.
 /|         _|  ejm97   |_   ,__    /` /
b b        |______________| ,___\@@K):)_,
=================================================
(seriously though, it's a really good Knight :-)

  ...................................................
  ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\)::      :["]::;
  8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\::      :/#\::;
  ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:______[###]:;
  ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
  7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
  ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
  ;      ::::::      ::::::;      :[@Zn:      ::::::;
  6      ::::::      ::::::;      :/#\::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______::::::;______[###]:______::::::;
  ;::::::      ::::::  ()  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  5::::::      ::::::  /\  ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______::::::_[##]_;::::::______::::::______;
  ;      ::::::      ::()::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
  4      ::::::      ::/\::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
  ;______::::::______:[__]:;_[__]_::::::______::::::;
  ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
  ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
  ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::::::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
  2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::::::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
  ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_::::::;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
  ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
  1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
  :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
  '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''


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Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 18 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
David Riley wrote:
> >I thought several people were going to play. I'll do another move
> So did I, any voluteers? (I'll do another one too)

Oh yes, I can take the first one, hehe :)

                                                        
                                                        
                                 Y                      
                                 |      .               
                                 +._ O /                
      Looks like a               |  `#'                 
      game of Ascii              |  / \                 
      Battle Chess,                 ())                 
      doesn't it? :)                d b                 
                                                       
                                      p                 
                                   .-/-o                
                                  / /'                  
                             .--./ /     --------<      
                                 O'-._                  
                                      `                 
                                                        
 
                                                        
   ...................................................    
   ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\)::      :["]::;  ()
   8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\::      :/#\::;  /\
   ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:______[###]:; [__]
   ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
   7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
   ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
   ;      ::::::      ::::::;      :[@Zn:      ::::::;
   6      ::::::      ::::::;      :/#\::      ::::::;
   ;______::::::______::::::;______[###]:______::::::;
   ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   5::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
   ;      ::::::      ::()::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
   4      ::::::      ::/\::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
   ;______::::::______:[__]:;_[##]_::::::______::::::;
   ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
   ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::::::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
   2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::::::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
   ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_::::::;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
   ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
   1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
   :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
   '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''


I hope you don't mind my move llizard. I'm not better
than you in this game... :)

> Your horse appears to have thrown it's rider in panic :-p
>               _,,
>              "-=\~
>    _          _ \\~
>   (e} _,      _\|/\                   (this bit may be
>   /\\/p|====- \  \ \                   too UK specific)
>  /_/\/            ( )~~~                    |
> ( |               | \                 "...my kingdom
>  \|           ___/__/___                / for a horse" etc.
>  /|         _|  ejm97   |_   ,__    /` /
> b b        |______________| ,___\@@K):)_,
> =================================================
> (seriously though, it's a really good Knight :-)

Yes, and good rediddling too.

:)
Andreas

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Ok.
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Krogg <kro...@inspace.net> ASCII art 19 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> 
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> [ 8< ]
> > I don't know anything about chess but here is my attempt (with two
> > versions of black pieces, I can't decide which one I like best):
> >
> >   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
> >   ) (    ) (   ) (   ) '   | |   ( )
> >  /___\  /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\ /___\
> >
> >   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
> >   )#(    )#(   )#(   )#'   |#|   (#)
> >  /###\  /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\ /###\
> >
> >   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
> >   )8(    )8(   )8(   )8'   |8|   (8)
> >  /888\  /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\ /888\
> >
> 
> And here's a smaller version:
> 
>   VV    vv   ()   (\   []
>   )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
>  /__\  /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\ /__\
> 
>   VV    vv   ()   (\   []
>   )(    )(   )(   )'   ||   ()
>  /##\  /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\ /##\
> 
even smaller still

   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
   ) (    ) (   ) (   ) '   | |   ( )

   \+/    \^/   (V)   ("\   [-]    _
   )#(    )#(   )#(   )#'   |#|   (#)

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miK <mmi...@dataweb.nl> 19 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Off-topic, but just in case someone's interested in playing chess on the net.

Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote:

>The Main Chess Newsgroups

<snipped>

>rec.games.chess.play-by-email

This ng. is almost dead. :(

But there are mailing lists of people who are willing to play - follow the links on
http://www.chess-space.com/ - or visit a commercial site like
http://www.chessclub.com/ which is dedicated to email chess.

Don't drop a request in:
>rec.games.chess.computer 
>rec.games.chess.politics 
>rec.games.chess.analysis 
You'll probably get flamed (worst case scenario) or sent to:

>rec.games.chess.misc 
>alt.chess.ics 
>     Mostly for people who play on-line chess by telnet
>     or free servers. 

The most popular server is a commercial one:
http://www.chessclub.com/
(7 days free access though)

A free server is:
http://www.chess.net/

In both cases you should register and install software (like telnet).

>alt.chess.bdg 
>     For addicts of the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.

 :D   I wonder why my ISP doesn't offer this one...

Bye,
mic

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 19 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <ByD...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
<dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <349...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, llizard
> <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes
> >In article <HNr...@dmriley.demon.co.uk>, David Riley
> ><dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>                        +
> >>                        ()
> >>                        )(
> >>                      __)(_
> >>                     /\/__\\
> >>              ____()/  \____[]
> >>              \   )(  /`\   )(
> >>               \__)(\/___\__)(\
> >>                \/__\\    \/XX\\
> >>                 \____\____\____\
> >>
> >
> >I like the board (even if I don't quite understand it). But it doesn't
> >seem like a very dangerous position for White. Couldn't White just take
> >the black rook and that would be the end of it?
>
> It's just supposed to be an illusion - the two white pieces are both
> on the same level as the black rook, but not on the same level as
> each other (the queen is higher).
> 
> --
>  { { wwWWww } }   David Riley   dav...@dmriley.demon.co.uk
>   { {(.)(.)} }                  http://www.dmriley.demon.co.uk

Oh, okay. Well, how about making it even more of an impossibility.

Both pieces are in jeopardy if the triangle is considered a square?
                         
                        /')
                      ___U_
                     /\ [_]\
              _____ /  \____\
              \  (\)  /`\    \
               \__X_\/___\____\
                \[X] \    \    \
                 \____\____\____\

And Checkmate?
                         +
                        )X(
                      __)X(_
                     /\ [X]\
              _____ /  \____\
              \  (\)  /`\   L-|
               \__U_\/___\___U\
                \[_] \    \ [_]\
                 \____\____\____\

(\)
 U
[_]  is supposed to be a bishop.

L-|
 U
[_]  is supposed to be a rook.

Here's the whole less than satisfactory set.

                .    +
L-|  /')  (\)  ) (  ) (   o
 U    U    U   ) (  ) (   U
[_]  [_]  [_]  [_]  [_]  [_]   ejm97

                .    +
L-|  /')  (\)  )X(  )X(   o
 U    U    U   )X(  )X(   U
[X]  [X]  [X]  [X]  [X]  [X]   ejm97


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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 19 Dec 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <349...@mpq.mpg.de>, Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de>
wrote:
> 
> David Riley wrote:
> > >I thought several people were going to play. I'll do another move
> > So did I, any voluteers? (I'll do another one too)
> 
> Oh yes, I can take the first one, hehe :)
> 
> 
> 
>                                  Y
>                                  |      .
>                                  +._ O /
>       Looks like a               |  `#'
>       game of Ascii              |  / \
>       Battle Chess,                 ())
>       doesn't it? :)                d b
> 
>                                       p
>                                    .-/-o
>                                   / /'
>                              .--./ /     --------<
>                                  O'-._
>                                       `
[snip]
>    ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\)::      :["]::;  ()
>    8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\::      :/#\::;  /\
>    ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:______[###]:; [__]
>    ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
[snip]
>    ;      ::::::      ::()::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
>    4      ::::::      ::/\::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
>    ;______::::::______:[__]:;_[##]_::::::______::::::;
>    ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
[snip]
>    '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''
> 
> I hope you don't mind my move llizard. I'm not better
> than you in this game... :)
> 
> > Your horse appears to have thrown it's rider in panic :-p
> >               _,,
> >              "-=\~
> >    _          _ \\~
> >   (e} _,      _\|/\                   (this bit may be
> >   /\\/p|====- \  \ \                   too UK specific)
> >  /_/\/            ( )~~~                    |
> > ( |               | \                 "...my kingdom
> >  \|           ___/__/___                / for a horse" etc.
> >  /|         _|  ejm97   |_   ,__    /` /
> > b b        |______________| ,___\@@K):)_,
> > =================================================
> > (seriously though, it's a really good Knight :-)
> 
> Yes, and good rediddling too.
> 
> :)
> Andreas
> 
>                               Yoohoo!   .
>                                  -._ O /
>                                     ` '
>                                     / \
>                                     ())
>         __     _..--.. .-'`-.     .-d-b-.
>      --'  `_.-'       ``.._. `  .'       `.  _.
>         .-'                    '          ,-'
> 
>    ASCII Dictionary :
>   - http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
> 
>   Alt.Ascii-Art FAQ :
>   - http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise/ascii/faq.html

Mind?? No, of course, be my guest. Let the mayhem continue unabated! (I
wouldn't say so quickly that you aren't better than I at chess. I am
dismal and have only once won a game when my frequent opponent was
happily inebriated and I was the designated driver.)

Here is Andreas' move again. I believe that it's now White to
play?                                                        
   ...................................................    
   ; ["]  :[@Zn: (\)  :\W/::; [M] ::(\)::      :["]::;  ()
   8 /#\  :/#\:: /#\  :/#\::; /#\ ::/#\::      :/#\::;  /\
   ;[###]_[###]:[###]_[###]:;[###]:[###]:______[###]:; [__]
   ;::()::  ()  ::()::      ;::()::  ()  ::()::  ()  ;
   7::/\::  /\  ::/\::      ;::/\::  /\  ::/\::  /\  ;
   ;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:______;:[##]:_[##]_:[##]:_[##]_;
   ;      ::::::      ::::::;      :[@Zn:      ::::::;
   6      ::::::      ::::::;      :/#\::      ::::::;
   ;______::::::______::::::;______[###]:______::::::;
   ;::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   5::::::      ::::::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   ;::::::______::::::______;::::::______::::::______;
   ;      ::::::      ::()::;  ()  ::::::      ::::::;
   4      ::::::      ::/\::;  /\  ::::::      ::::::;
   ;______::::::______:[__]:;_[##]_::::::______::::::;
   ;::::::      :[@Zn:      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   3::::::      :/_\::      ;::::::      ::::::      ;
   ;::::::______[___]:______;::::::______::::::______;
   ;  ()  ::()::  ()  ::::::;      ::()::  ()  ::()::;
   2  /\  ::/\::  /\  ::::::;      ::/\::  /\  ::/\::;
   ;_[__]_:[__]:_[__]_::::::;______:[__]:_[__]_:[__]:;
   ;:["]::      :(\):: \W/  ;:[M]:: (\)  :[@Zn: ["]  ;
   1:/_\::      :/_\:: /_\  ;:/_\:: /_\  :/_\:: /_\  ;
   :[___]:______[___]:[___]_;[___]:[___]_[___]:[___]_;
   '''a'''''b'''''c'''''d'''"'''e'''''f'''''g'''''h'''

What great stick figures!


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      &..#  >/              
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