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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 20 Jun 1998.
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alt.ascii-art · 29 messages · 20 Jun 1998 - 13 Jul 1998
Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> ASCII art 20 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>I got inspired by Lester.

Cool. More fonts! More fonts!!! Heh. I'm addicted to fonts now.

>What letters or characters are missing,
>besides the lower case?

I got inspired by Lester. What letters or characters are missing,
besides the lower case?

 ~ @ # $ % ^ & * ( )   _   -  + = { } [ ] | < >

I did some.

O/ /\   .' '.          ---  |~ ~| | / \
/O      '. .' ___ ---  ---  |_ _| | \ /

ejm2line

 /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|

/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/
\/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_

| ') ') |_|_ [   /   -/   o  (_) /\
| /_ ,)   |  ,) (_)  /   (_)  /  \/

     . .  |  '  ''  /  \   ') 
. ,  , .  .        /    \  !
.
http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm  -  Ansi home page 
FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi  - To download the ANSI format

Willem Romijn <ltt...@dds.nl> ASCII art 20 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report

llizard wrote in message <358...@freent.toronto.on.ca>...

<snip>

>
>But I'm still stuck on
>~  >
>
>and not particularly satisfied with
>
>@ { } [ ]
>


How about
   _   .-._.  |"   "|
  :a'         |_   _|

   @     ~     [   ]


--
    n.-.n
    (~.~)       Willem Romijn
   .'-x-'.      ltt...@dds.nl
  (O)( )(O)     ICQ: 11267910
  (m)/"\(m)

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 20 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
I got inspired by Lester. What letters or characters are missing,
besides the lower case?

ejm2line

 /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|

/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/
\/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_

| ') ') |_|_ [   /   -/   o  (_) /\
| /_ ,)   |  ,) (_)  /   (_)  /  \/

     . .  |  '  ''  /  \   ')
. ,  , .  .        /    \  !



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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 21 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
>I got inspired by Lester. What letters or characters are missing,
>besides the lower case?

>ejm2line

> /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
>/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|

>/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/
>\/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_

>| ') ') |_|_ [   /   -/   o  (_) /\
>| /_ ,)   |  ,) (_)  /   (_)  /  \/

>     . .  |  '  ''  /  \   ')
>. ,  , .  .        /    \  !


Henry Segerman asked the same question recently.

A complete Figlet Font has all of the following characters in that
exact order = 102 total. Many font designers seem to do Capitals
and Numerals and then give up on the remainder.

At present your ejm2line has Groups 3, 5 and some items from Groups
2, 4 and 6 = 46 characters in total.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

  From the Figlet Manual...

  " The Font Data
      The font data begins on the next line after  the  comments
      and continues to the end of the file.

      The characters from ` ' to `~' are given in standard ASCII
      order, followed by the extra German characters: umlauted
      `A', `O', `U', `a', `o' and `u' and s-z. "


Group 1    is $$ for SP (space character)
           i.e. 8 rows of spaces 1 column wide.

Group 2    ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , . /

Group 3    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Group 4    : ; < = > ? @

Group 5    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Group 6    [ \ ]  ^ _ `

Group 7   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

Group 8   { | } ~

Group 9    �  �  �  �  �  � sz

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's what those extra German characters of Group9 look like in the
Figlet Font standard.flf:

 _   _ @
(_)_(_)@
 / _ \ @
|  _  |@
|_| |_|@
       @@
 _   _ @
(_)_(_)@
 / _ \ @
| |_| |@
 \___/ @
       @@
 _   _ @
(_) (_)@
| | | |@
| |_| |@
 \___/ @
       @@
 _   _ @
(_)_(_)@
 / _` |@
| (_| |@
 \__,_|@
       @@
 _   _ @
(_)_(_)@
 / _ \ @
| (_) |@
 \___/ @
       @@
 _   _ @
(_) (_)@
| | | |@
| |_| |@
 \__,_|@
       @@
 ____ @
| __ \@
| |/ /@
| |\ \@
|_||_/@
      @@

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Bye,

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 21 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <199...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
les...@aol.com (Lester5374) wrote:
> 
> >I got inspired by Lester.
> 
> Cool. More fonts! More fonts!!! Heh. I'm addicted to fonts now.
> 
> >What letters or characters are missing,
> >besides the lower case?
> 
> I got inspired by Lester. What letters or characters are missing,
> besides the lower case?
> 
>  ~ @ # $ % ^ & * ( )   _   -  + = { } [ ] | < >
> 
> I did some.
> 
> O/ /\   .' '.          ---  |~ ~| | / \
> /O      '. .' ___ ---  ---  |_ _| | \ /
> 
> ejm2line
> 
>  /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
> /--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|
> 
> /\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/
> \/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_
> 
> | ') ') |_|_ [   /   -/   o  (_) /\
> | /_ ,)   |  ,) (_)  /   (_)  /  \/
> 
>      . .  |  '  ''  /  \   ')
> . ,  , .  .        /    \  !
> .
> http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm  -  Ansi home page
> FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi  - To download the ANSI format

Thanks Lester.

/\  (|`  ++  x   (   /  \  o/   _  _  _|_  (   )  ,  |  /d  |-  -|
    ,|)  ++     (_X  \  /  /o   -      |   (   )  `  |  \/  |_  _|

^    $   #   *   &   (  )  %    =  -   +   {   }  <  |   @  [    ]


But I'm still stuck on
~  >

and not particularly satisfied with

@ { } [ ]



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In article <898...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
> >I got inspired by Lester. What letters or characters are missing,
> >besides the lower case?
> 
> >ejm2line
> 
> > /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
> >/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|
> 
> >/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/
> >\/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_
> 
> >| ') ') |_|_ [   /   -/   o  (_) /\
> >| /_ ,)   |  ,) (_)  /   (_)  /  \/
> 
> >     . .  |  '  ''  /  \   ')
> >. ,  , .  .        /    \  !
> 
> Henry Segerman asked the same question recently.
> 
> A complete Figlet Font has all of the following characters in that
> exact order = 102 total. Many font designers seem to do Capitals
> and Numerals and then give up on the remainder.
> 
> At present your ejm2line has Groups 3, 5 and some items from Groups
> 2, 4 and 6 = 46 characters in total.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>   From the Figlet Manual...
> 
>   " The Font Data
>       The font data begins on the next line after  the  comments
>       and continues to the end of the file.
> 
>       The characters from ` ' to `~' are given in standard ASCII
>       order, followed by the extra German characters: umlauted
>       `A', `O', `U', `a', `o' and `u' and s-z. "
> 
> Group 1    is $$ for SP (space character)
>            i.e. 8 rows of spaces 1 column wide.
> 
> Group 2    ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , . /
> 
> Group 3    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
> 
> Group 4    : ; < = > ? @
> 
> Group 5    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
> 
> Group 6    [ \ ]  ^ _ `
> 
> Group 7   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
> 
> Group 8   { | } ~
> 
> Group 9    �  �  �  �  �  � sz
> 

Thanks for the info Colin. I guess all the characters have to be
fulfilled in order to have the thing figletized.

Am I reading your group 9 correctly?


                  v      //
Group 9   []  TM  S  //     [] 


sz???



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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 22 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:

> Thanks for the info Colin. I guess all the characters have to be
> fulfilled in order to have the thing figletized.

Well you _can_ leave characters out but Figlet looks for ALL the
characters so any characters omitted still have to have the Figlet
codes (left blank) for each omitted character otherwise the Figlet
program will munge the letters or give unexpected results. This is
why I left other font letters in the figletised version I made of
Henry's font...Henry had only done the Capital letters.

When you get the Figlet package there is a utility included called
CHKFONT.EXE which can be used to check any Figlet font to see if it
is correct and it is useful to check any new Figlet fonts you make.


> Am I reading your group 9 correctly?

>                   v      //
> Group 9   []  TM  S  //     []


No, I'm afraid my TIN newsreader will not post the Extended
Character Set so I will have to uuencode Group 9 for you:

-------------------------------------------------------
section 1 of uuencode 4.02 of file GROUP9    by R.E.M.

begin 644 GROUP9
@1W)O=7`@.2`@("".(""9("":(""$(""4(""!('-Z#0IZ"
``
end
sum -r/size 19800/71 section (from "begin" to "end")
sum -r/size 60045/32 entire input file
-------------------------------------------------------


In Figlet font SMALL.FLF those Group 9 characters look like this:

 _   _      _   _      _   _      _   _      _   _     _   _     ____
(_)_(_)    (_)_(_)    (_) (_)    (_)_(_)    (_)_(_)   (_) (_)   | __ \
 / _ \      / _ \     | | | |     / _` |     / _ \    | | | |   | |/ /
|  _  |    | |_| |    | |_| |    | (_| |    | (_) |   | |_| |   | |\ \
|_| |_|     \___/      \___/      \__,_|     \___/     \__,_|   |_||_/



Actually there are 2 established Figlet fonts, twopoint.flf and
threepoint.flf, similar to your ejm2line.

The author of twopoint.flf has included those extra German umlaut
characters in Group 9 but the threepoint.flf author chickened out
and left them blank.

And...I don't think the twopoint.flf quite works with the lower case
letters that have tails/descenders like g, p, q and y. The
threepoint.flf avoids that difficulty by having the third line below.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

twopoint.flf

             |  ''  ++  (|~  o/   o   )  /~  ~\  \|/   |          /
G2           o      ++  _|)  /o  (_X     \_  _/  /|\  ~|~  )  o  /

             /\  '|  ~)  ~/  /|   |~   /   ~/  (~)  (~|
G3           \/   |  /_  _)  ~|~  _)  (_)  /   (_)   /

              o  o  /  --  \  ~)   _
G4            o  )  \  --  /  o   (a)

    |~||~)|~|~\[~|~|~_|_|| ||/| |\/||\ |/~\|~)/~\|~)(~~|~| |\  /|    |\/\/~/
G5  |~||_)|_|_/[_|~|_|| ||_||\|_|  || \|\_/|~ \_X|~\_) | |_| \/  \/\/ /\/ /_

              |~  \   ~|    /\      (
G6            |_   \  _|        __

     _ |_  _ _| _ |~(~||_ o o| |._ _ ._  _ |)(|._ __|_           |_|_
G7  (_||_)(_(_|}_~|~ _|| ||_||<|| | || |(_)|  || _\ | |_|\/\/\/>< _|/_

               |~  |  ~|   /\/
G8            ~|_  |  _|~

         o~o   o~o   q p   o_o   o_o   o o   |~)
G9       |~|   \_/   |_|   (_|   (_)   |_|   | )


--------------------------------------------------------------------

threepoint.flf

              |  ''  ++  (|~  '/  ()   '   /  \   . ,  _|_         /
G2            .      ++  _|)  /,  (_X     |    |  -X-   !   ,  .  /
                                           \  /   ' `
              /X  '|   '~)  '~)  |_|  L~   /   ~/  (~)  (~)
G3            X/  .|.   /_  ._)    |  _)  (_)  /   (_)   /

              .  .   /  --  \   '~)   /~~\
G4            .  ,  (   --   )   !   | (|/
                     \      /         \__

     /\ |~)/~`|~\(~|~/~_|_|~|~~|~|/| |\/||\ |/~\|~)/~\|~)(~~|~| |\  /\    /
G5  /~~\|_)\_,|_/(_|~\_/| |_|_L| |\|_|  || \|\_/|~ \_X|~\_) | |_| \/  \/\/
     \/\ /~/
     /\ | /_

              |~  \   ~|    '`        `
G6            |    \   |         __
              |_      _|

         _ |_  _ _| _  |` _ |_ ..| | _ _  _  _  _  _  _ __|_          _
G7      (_||_)(_(_|(/_~|~(_|| ||||<|| | || |(_)|_)(_|| _\ ||_|\/VV><\//_
                          _|   L|              |    |/              /


               |~  |  ~|   '`'
G8            <    |    >
               |_  |  _|


G9

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Have Fun with your Figletising.

Bye,

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 22 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <6mj8g8$e3e$1...@news.worldonline.nl>, "Willem Romijn"
<ltt...@dds.nl> wrote:
> 
> llizard wrote in message <358...@freent.toronto.on.ca>...
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >
> >But I'm still stuck on
> >~  >
> >
> >and not particularly satisfied with
> >
> >@ { } [ ]
> >
> 
> How about
>    _   .-._.  |"   "|
>   :a'         |_   _|
> 
>    @     ~     [   ]
> 

Thank you. Those aren't bad... they give me inspiration.

   _    ^v    |`   `|
  (a'         |_   _|        

   @     ~     [   ] 

             .-._.
I think that       is brilliant but it is so much larger than the rest
of the letters that I'll stick with my smaller solution.

And I think that

|`  `|                                             |-  -|
|_  _|  are fractionally better than the original  |_  _|


 Now only these are left:   {   }  >




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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 22 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <898...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the info Colin. I guess all the characters have to be
> > fulfilled in order to have the thing figletized.
> 
> Well you _can_ leave characters out but Figlet looks for ALL the
> characters so any characters omitted still have to have the Figlet
> codes (left blank) for each omitted character otherwise the Figlet
> program will munge the letters or give unexpected results.

[snip]

> > Am I reading your group 9 correctly?
> 
> >                   v      //
> > Group 9   []  TM  S  //     []
> 
> No, I'm afraid my TIN newsreader will not post the Extended
> Character Set so
[snip]
> In Figlet font SMALL.FLF those Group 9 characters look like this:
> 
>  _   _      _   _      _   _      _   _      _   _     _   _     ____
> (_)_(_)    (_)_(_)    (_) (_)    (_)_(_)    (_)_(_)   (_) (_)   | __ \
>  / _ \      / _ \     | | | |     / _` |     / _ \    | | | |   | |/ /
> |  _  |    | |_| |    | |_| |    | (_| |    | (_) |   | |_| |   | |\ \
> |_| |_|     \___/      \___/      \__,_|     \___/     \__,_|   |_||_/
> 
> Actually there are 2 established Figlet fonts, twopoint.flf and
> threepoint.flf, similar to your ejm2line.

They are indeed very close. But I assure you, I came up with the font on
my own.

> The author of twopoint.flf has included those extra German umlaut
> characters in Group 9 but the threepoint.flf author chickened out
> and left them blank.
> 
> And...I don't think the twopoint.flf quite works with the lower case
> letters that have tails/descenders like g, p, q and y.

I have the same difficulty and have cheated by adding a third line. But
I included the less satisfying strict two line lower case.

> twopoint.flf
[snip] 
>      _ |_  _ _| _ |~(~||_ o o| |._ _ ._  _ |)(|._ __|_           |_|_
> G7  (_||_)(_(_|}_~|~ _|| ||_||<|| | || |(_)|  || _\ | |_|\/\/\/>< _|/_
> 
[snip]

> Have Fun with your Figletising.

ejm2line:

Group 1    is $$ for SP (space character)
           i.e. 8 rows of spaces 1 column wide.

Group 2    ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , . /

|  '' ++  (|` o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_         / 
.     ++  ,|) /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,  .  / 

Group 3    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

/\  |  ')  ') |_|_  [   /   -/  o  (_)
\/  |  /_  ,)   |   ,) (_)  /  (_)  /

Group 4    : ; < = > ? @

. .  ,  _   missing   ')  _
. ,  `  -             !  (a'

Group 5    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

 /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \; | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|

/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ /  -/
\/ |  \L |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |   /_


Group 6    [ \ ]  ^ _ `


|`  \   `|  /\       \     
|_   \  _|       __

Group 7   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

   |     |    +`    |  . . |, |
(| |) ( (| (' |  (| |) | | |\ | |)) |) ()
                 ,|

         _ +                   _
|) (| |` > | || \/ \\/  >< \/  <
|   |                      /

strict:

   |     |    +` (| |  . . |, |
(| |) ( (| (' |  ,| |) | | |\ | |)) |) ()

|) (|    _ +                    _
|   | |` > | || \/ \\/  >< `/   <

Group 8   { | } ~

(  |  )  ^v
(  |  )
           ..  ..  ..   ..  ..  .. 
Group 9    A   O   U    a   o   u    B as in "Strauss (StrauB)"

( &#196;  &#214;  &#220; &#228;  &#246; &#252; &#223;)

                    ..  ..   ..   |)
uppercase missing   (|  ()   ||   |_)

-------------------------

I suppose that Group 9 could include any nonstandard character.... (c
cedille, e accent grave and egu... of course, that would open up a whole
new can of worms)

       (
    )   ) (
   (_)_(___)__(__
  |            _ |
  | \//()|`|)) > |
  |______________|



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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 23 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
>In article <898...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
><cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
>> Actually there are 2 established Figlet fonts, twopoint.flf and
>> threepoint.flf, similar to your ejm2line.

> They are indeed very close. But I assure you, I came up with the
> font on my own.

I was not inferring otherwise...it is inevitable that characters
will be identical or very similar in such small size fonts and there
is nothing wrong in sharing a number of characters to get the best
looking result...that is the main consideration if the font is to
be widely used. I thought you might like to see the two existing
fonts for further ideas and comparisons.


> I have the same difficulty and have cheated by adding a third
> line.  But I included the less satisfying strict two line lower case.

It isn't cheating, just a practical necessity to make the lower case
look right.

You may want to consider renaming your font from ejm2line to
ejm3line because technically that's what it is although each letter
may only be 2 characters in height, the font actually occupies 3
lines where there is mixed upper and lower case.


> ejm2line:

For your three-line version Group 1 becomes:

Group 1    is $$ for SP (space character)
           i.e. 3 rows of spaces 1 column wide.


> Group 2    ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /

Damn...my apologies...I missed out the hyphen character, Decimal 45,
in Group 2 between the , and the . so Ihave added it as a plain
hyphen in your font characters for Group 2

|  '' ++  (|` o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_     -      /
.     ++  ,|) /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,     .  /


            ..  ..  ..   ..  ..  ..
> Group 9    A   O   U    a   o   u    B as in "Strauss (StrauB)"

> ( &#196;  &#214;  &#220; &#228;  &#246; &#252; &#223;)

Now that is a very much clearer explanation of Group 9...thanks...I'll
add that to my own notes on the groups.


> I suppose that Group 9 could include any nonstandard character....
> (c cedille, e accent grave and egu... of course, that would open
> up a whole new can of worms)

I don't know how Figlet handles any additional characters that might
get tagged on to the end and I don't really know why the authors
included Group 9 which are out of sequence characters taken from the
Extended Character Set.

Figlet just looks for the character '!' in the No.2 position in the
font.flf file ( No.1 position being the 'space' ) it expects to find
the correct character in each position...if it doesn't the results
that appear on screen will be garbled.


I have figletised Groups 1, 2 and 3 of your font and named it
"whatever.flf" basing the font header on threepoint.flf and it works
OK with Figlet just as it is even though it is a shortened font. It
checks out OK with CHKFONT.EXE.

You will have to complete the font putting in all the rest of your
characters and leaving 3-line blanks like...

@
@
@@

for all the characters that are missing. Then check your font with
CHKFONT.EXE, the worst error is caused by leaving in trailing spaces
on any of the lines in the font ( easily done ).


Here is "whatever.flf":

--------------------------------------------------------------------
flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14
whatever.flf font by llizard aka ejm 6/98
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Apr 1998

Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
14   - number of comment lines

$$@
$$@
$$@@
|@
.@
 @@
''@
  @
  @@
++@
++@
  @@
(|`@
,|)@
   @@
o/@
/o@
  @@
 ( @
(_X@
   @@
'@
 @
 @@
/@
\@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
x@
 @
 @@
_|_@
 | @
   @@
 @
,@
 @@
 @
-@
 @@
 @
.@
 @@
 /@
/ @
  @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
')@
/_@
  @@
')@
,)@
  @@
|_|_@
  | @
    @@
[ @
,)@
  @@
 / @
(_)@
   @@
-/@
/ @
  @@
 o @
(_)@
   @@
(_)@
 / @
   @@
--------------------------------------------------------------------


And here is Figlet's output from whatever.flf:

')        |  ''  ++  (|`  o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_            /
/_        .      ++  ,|)  /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,  -  .  /

')        /\  |  ')  ')  |_|_  [    /   -/   o   (_)
,)        \/  |  /_  ,)    |   ,)  (_)  /   (_)   /

|_|_
  |

[
,)

 /
(_)

-/
/

 o
(_)

(_)
 /


Happy figletising. :-)

Bye,

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 24 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <898...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
> >In article <898...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
> ><cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
[snip] 
> You may want to consider renaming your font from ejm2line to
> ejm3line because technically that's what it is although each letter
> may only be 2 characters in height, the font actually occupies 3
> lines where there is mixed upper and lower case.
 
I will take your sage advice.

> > Group 2    ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /
> 
> Damn...my apologies...I missed out the hyphen character, Decimal 45,
> in Group 2 between the , and the . so Ihave added it as a plain
> hyphen in your font characters for Group 2
> 
> |  '' ++  (|` o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_     -      /
> .     ++  ,|) /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,     .  /
> 
> >            ..  ..  ..   ..  ..  ..
> > Group 9    A   O   U    a   o   u    B as in "Strauss (StrauB)"
> 
> > ( &#196;  &#214;  &#220; &#228;  &#246; &#252; &#223;)
> 
> Now that is a very much clearer explanation of Group 9...thanks...I'll
> add that to my own notes on the groups.

Not at all. Glad to be of service.
 
> > I suppose that Group 9 could include any nonstandard character....
> > (c cedille, e accent grave and egu... of course, that would open
> > up a whole new can of worms)
> 
> I don't know how Figlet handles any additional characters that might
> get tagged on to the end and I don't really know why the authors
> included Group 9 which are out of sequence characters taken from the
> Extended Character Set.
> 
> Figlet just looks for the character '!' in the No.2 position in the
> font.flf file ( No.1 position being the 'space' ) it expects to find
> the correct character in each position...if it doesn't the results
> that appear on screen will be garbled.

Okay. I think I understand what you said. (Clearly it was a German who
decided which characters were to go in the Group 9 set.... )I, quite
frankly, don't really want to include other nonstandard characters
anyway - too complicated already.
 
> I have figletised Groups 1, 2 and 3 of your font and named it
> "whatever.flf" basing the font header on threepoint.flf and it works
> OK with Figlet just as it is even though it is a shortened font. It
> checks out OK with CHKFONT.EXE.
[snip]
> Here is "whatever.flf":
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14
> whatever.flf font by llizard aka ejm 6/98
> Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
> Date: 23 Apr 1998
> 
> Explanation of first line:
> flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
> a    - should always be `a', for now
> $    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
> 3    - height of a character
> 2    - height of a character, not including descenders
> 11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
> 0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
> 14   - number of comment lines
> 
> $$@
> $$@
> $$@@
> |@
> .@
>  @@
> ''@
>   @
>   @@
> ++@
> ++@
>   @@
> (|`@
> ,|)@
[snip]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> And here is Figlet's output from whatever.flf:
> 
> ')        |  ''  ++  (|`  o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_            /
> /_        .      ++  ,|)  /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,  -  .  /
[snip of the rest]

           ___ha    /\
         _/ ha| ---%^^^,    /` /\ /\ |  |\ | [ (` (`  | |
        |_____|ha / \/ >    \, \/ \/ |_ | \| [ ,) ,)  . .
          ---  ==     >
        [_____]    __>,^
  ejm98  |   |    //| |

Thanks for the lesson. The only problem I have after finishing the task
is that because I have always Figletized on-line at
http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/
or at http://saigon.mit.edu/dinhyen/figlet/figlet.html
I don't have the CHKFONT.EXE so I can't check it.

So here is 
--------------------------------
flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14
ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Jun 1998
 
Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
14   - number of comment lines
 
$$@
$$@
$$@@
|@
.@
@@
''@
  @
  @@
++@
++@
  @@
(|`@
,|)@
   @@
o/@
/o@
  @@
 ( @
(_X@
   @@
'@
 @
 @@
/@
\@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
x@
 @
 @@
_|_@
 | @
 @@
 @
,@
 @@
 @
_@
 @@
 @
.@
 @@
 /@
/ @
 @@
/\@
\/@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
')@
/_@
 @@
')@
,)@
 @@
|_|_@
  | @
  @@
[ @
,)@
  @@
 / @
(_)@
  @@
-/@
/ @
  @@
 o @
(_)@
  @@
(_)@
 / @
  @@
.@
.@
 @@
.@
,@
 @@
,@
`@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
')@
! @
  @@
 _ @
(a'@
   @@
 /\ @
/--\@
    @@
|)@
|)@
  @@
/`@
\,@
  @@
|\@
|/@
  @@
[@
[@
 @@
[@
|@
 @@
/`@
\]@
  @@
|_|@
| |@
   @@
|@
|@
 @@
 |@
,|@
  @@
|/@
|\@
  @@
| @
|_@
  @@
|\/|@
|  |@
    @@
|\ |@
| \|@
    @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|)@
| @
  @@
/\@
\X@
  @@
|)@
|\@
  @@
(`@
,)@
  @@
-|-@
 | @
   @@
| |@
|_|@
   @@
\  /@
 \/ @
    @@
\   /@
 \^/ @
     @@
\/@
/\@
  @@
\ /@
 | @
   @@
-/@
/_@
  @@
|`@
|_@
  @@
\ @
 \@
  @@
`|@
_|@
  @@
/\@
  @
  @@
  @
__@
  @@
\@
 @
 @@
  @
(|@
  @@
| @
|)@
  @@
 @
(@
 @@
 |@
(|@
  @@
  @
('@
  @@
+`@
| @
  @@
 @
(|@
,|@@
| @
|)@
  @@
.@
|@
 @@
.@
|@
|@@
|,@
|\@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
   @
|))@
   @@
  @
|)@
  @@
  @
()@
  @@
  @
|)@
| @@
  @
(|@
 |@@
  @
|`@
  @@
_@
>@
 @@
+@
|@
 @@
  @
||@
  @@
  @
\/@
  @@
   @
\^/@
   @@
  @
><@
  @@
  @
\/@
/ @@
_@
<@
 @@
(@
(@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
)@
)@
 @@
^v@
  @
  @@
'^'@
/-\@
   @@
'^'@
\_/@
   @@
|"|@
|_|@
   @@
..@
(|@
  @@
..@
()@
  @@
..@
||@
  @@
|) @
|_)@
   @@
---------------------------
I hope it's right.



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      _/   |   \_,^%---
     |_____|     <\ \  I'm still not thrilled with the > { }.
       ---  ==   >/
     [_____]   __>,^             ASCII-ar+, ASCII and gif anima+ions
  ejm |   |   //| |      http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/

.----- On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:59:45 -0400, llizard posted:
|
| Now only these are left:   {   }  >
|
'------------------------


   ./"  "\.      look like little animals <g>
   '\_  _/'     best I could do on { and } in two lines :o(

       \
       /           >


    _."  "._     Another try on those curly brackets...
     '_  _'       inspired slightly by the 'mini' FIGlet font!



Seeya,
Martin


|\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
|  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

In article <359...@news.vossnet.net>, zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz
(Martin Atkins) wrote:
> 
> .----- On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:59:45 -0400, llizard posted:
> |
> | Now only these are left:   {   }  >
> |
> '------------------------
> 
>    ./"  "\.      look like little animals <g>
>    '\_  _/'     best I could do on { and } in two lines :o(
> 
>        \
>        /           >
> 
>     _."  "._     Another try on those curly brackets...
>      '_  _'       inspired slightly by the 'mini' FIGlet font!
> 
> Seeya,
> Martin
> 
> |\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
> |  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

these curly brackets of yours would make very good decoys

    _."__
     '___'

And perhaps this one has been done before?

    =')__
     '___'



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Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> ASCII art 25 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
I do not know what is making me get this error at the end, you probably left
out some characters somewhere, but I fixed it up as best as I could with the
help of the FIGLET Windows version error messages. First, I had to change the
number of comment lines from 14 to 15, and then the rest of the errors was that
the @ didn't all line up. As for the rest of it, I have no idea. Like I said,
it's probably omitted characters.

flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 15
ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Jun 1998
 
Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
15   - number of comment lines
 
$$@
$$@
$$@@
|@
.@
 @@
''@
  @
  @@
++@
++@
  @@
(|`@
,|)@
   @@
o/@
/o@
  @@
 ( @
(_X@
   @@
'@
 @
 @@
/@
\@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
x@
 @
 @@
_|_@
 | @
   @@
 @
,@
 @@
 @
_@
 @@
 @
.@
 @@
 /@
/ @
  @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
')@
/_@
  @@
')@
,)@
  @@
|_|_@
  | @
    @@
[ @
,)@
  @@
 / @
(_)@
   @@
-/@
/ @
  @@
 o @
(_)@
   @@
(_)@
 / @
   @@
.@
.@
 @@
.@
,@
 @@
,@
`@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
')@
! @
  @@
 _ @
(a'@
   @@
 /\ @
/--\@
    @@
|)@
|)@
  @@
/`@
\,@
  @@
|\@
|/@
  @@
[@
[@
 @@
[@
|@
 @@
/`@
\]@
  @@
|_|@
| |@
   @@
|@
|@
 @@
 |@
,|@
  @@
|/@
|\@
  @@
| @
|_@
  @@
|\/|@
|  |@
    @@
|\ |@
| \|@
    @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|)@
| @
  @@
/\@
\X@
  @@
|)@
|\@
  @@
(`@
,)@
  @@
-|-@
 | @
   @@
| |@
|_|@
   @@
\  /@
 \/ @
    @@
\   /@
 \^/ @
     @@
\/@
/\@
  @@
\ /@
 | @
   @@
-/@
/_@
  @@
|`@
|_@
  @@
\ @
 \@
  @@
`|@
_|@
  @@
/\@
  @
  @@
  @
__@
  @@
\@
 @
 @@
  @
(|@
  @@
| @
|)@
  @@
 @
(@
 @@
 |@
(|@
  @@
  @
('@
  @@
+`@
| @
  @@
  @
(|@
,|@@
| @
|)@
  @@
.@
|@
 @@
.@
|@
|@@
|,@
|\@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
   @
|))@
   @@
  @
|)@
  @@
  @
()@
  @@
  @
|)@
| @@
  @
(|@
 |@@
  @
|`@
  @@
_@
>@
 @@
+@
|@
 @@
  @
||@
  @@
  @
\/@
  @@
   @
\^/@
   @@
  @
><@
  @@
  @
\/@
/ @@
_@
<@
 @@
(@
(@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
)@
)@
 @@
^v@
  @
  @@
'^'@
/-\@
   @@
'^'@
\_/@
   @@
|"|@
|_|@
   @@
..@
(|@
  @@
..@
()@
  @@
..@
||@
  @@
|) @
|_)@
   @@
.
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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 1 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
>I do not know what is making me get this error at the end, you probably left
>out some characters somewhere, but I fixed it up as best as I could with the
>help of the FIGLET Windows version error messages. First, I had to change the
>number of comment lines from 14 to 15, and then the rest of the errors was that
>the @ didn't all line up. As for the rest of it, I have no idea. Like I said,
>it's probably omitted characters.


CHKFONT.EXE gave the following response:

--------------------------------------------------------------------
EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR- Filename does not end with '.flf'.
EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR (fatal)- Unexpected end of file after line 319.
**********************************************************************
EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 2, Warnings: 0
EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 7
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So...I added one set of blanks at the end of the letters:

@
@
@@

And...bingo...it came right:

EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR- Filename does not end with '.flf'.
***********************************************************************
EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 1, Warnings: 0
EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 7
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually your original worked OK with Figlet even with the "fatal
error". Go figure.


Here is the output from Figlet and you will see that it starts to go
wrong in Group 4 and Group 5 has an extra character after the Z and
then it all goes haywire. It wants checking out carefully:


Group
~~~~~
')      |  ''  ++  (|`  o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_            /
/_      .      ++  ,|)  /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,  _  .  /

')      /\  |  ')  ')  |_|_  [    /   -/   o   (_)
,)      \/  |  /_  ,)    |   ,)  (_)  /   (_)   /

|_|_      .  .  ,  \  ')   _    /\
  |       .  ,  `  /  !   (a'  /--\

[       |)/`|\[[/`|_|| ||/| |\/||\ |/\|)/\|)(`-|-| |\  /\   /\/\ /-/|`
,)      |)\,|/[|\]| ||,||\|_|  || \|\/| \X|\,) | |_| \/  \^/ /\ | /_|_

 /       \   `|  /\        \
(_)       \  _|        __     (|


-/      |   |  +` | ..|,|             _+           _(
/       |)((|('|(||)|||\||))|)()|)(||`>|||\/\^/><\/<(
                ,|   |          |  |             /

 o       |  )  ^v  '^'
(_)      |  )      /-\


(_)                            +(
 /                             |(



And here are those required characters again:


2   ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /
3   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
4   : ; < = > ? @
5   ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
6   [ \ ]  ^ _ `
7   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
8   { | } ~
    ..  ..  ..  ..  ..  ..
9   A   O   U   a   o   u   sz


Bye,

Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> ASCII art 2 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>Actually, on examination, the only character missing was the < character
>from Group 4 as soon as that was added the rest came right.  

       |_|           . +             |, _               +             |
       | | (' \/ ,   | |   \^/ () |` |\ >   (| |` (' (| |   |) () \^/ .
              /                             ,|

Thanks for figleting Lizards font.
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Ilmari Karonen <ilt...@sci.fi> ASCII art 2 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard (cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca) wrote:
: ejm2line:

Here are a few diddles I came up with:

 7  Q  T   Z
 
 "7 /\ "T" "7
 /  \X  |  /_ 

: I suppose that Group 9 could include any nonstandard character.... (c
: cedille, e accent grave and egu... of course, that would open up a whole
: new can of worms)

Indeed it can. I have no idea why on earth everyone here continues to
make old style figfonts, when FIGLet 2.2 lets you have all unicode
characters (and any others!) in figfonts, has new smushmodes and more..

Just download it from ftp://ftp.internexus.net/pub/figlet/ and look at
figfont.txt. It may get a bit technical, but tells you everything you
need to know about figletizing fonts.

Join the FIGLet mailing list, while you're at it.

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/ ' 4(_,-_,-"_,/.'   `'--' ,------------------------' own. If you want me to
"`-(_,-"" `-' (,' itz      | make some for you too, you should pay for them!

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 2 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:

>Here is the output from Figlet and you will see that it starts to go
>wrong in Group 4 and Group 5 has an extra character after the Z and
>then it all goes haywire. It wants checking out carefully:


Actually, on examination, the only character missing was the < character
from Group 4 as soon as that was added the rest came right.  

I went a bit further and put in $ signs right throughout to make a 
hard space after each letter to separate them and make it more 
legible in use. I named this modification ejm3ds.flf font...the
ds being for double spacing of characters.

I also changed the  =  (  )  <  >  {   }  and  -  characters but 
they do not have to be kept that way.  


Here is the output and the Figlet file ejm3ds.flf follows:


------- Figlet output from ejm3ds.flf -------------------------------------


                       |  |  | -/  /\   |) |\  
                       |_ |_ | /_ /--\  |\ |/  

                        
                          | | . _        | 
                          | | | < (| |` (| 



')       | '' ++ (|` o/  (  '  /~ ~\  x _|_   __    / 
/_       .    ++ ,|) /o (_X   `\_ _/`    |  ,    . /  
                                                  
')       /\ | ') ') |_|_ [   /  -/  o  (_) 
,)       \/ | /_ ,)   |  ,) (_) /  (_)  /  
                                           
|_|_       . .  / __ \  ')  _  
  |        . , `\ ~~ /` !  (a' 
                            
[     /\   |)  /`  |\  [  [  /`  |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ | /\ |) /\ |) (`
,)   /--\  |)  \,  |/  [  |  \]  | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \| \/ |  \X |\ ,)

     -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ / -/ 
      |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |  /_ 
                             
 /        |` \  `|   /\    \ 
(_)       |_  \ _|      __   
                             

-/    |     |    +`    |  . . |, |                    _ +                 _
/  (| |) ( (| (' |  (| |) | | |\ | |)) |) () |) (| |` > | || \/ \^/ >< \/ <
                    ,|      |                |   |                     /   
  
 o       _( | )_ ^v 
(_)      ~( | )~   

                   
(_)                  _ _ 
 /                   > < 

                            
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------
flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 15
ejm3ds.flf font (double spaced) by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 2 July 1998

Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
15   - number of comment lines

$$@
$$@
$$@@
|$@
.$@
 $@@
''$@
  $@
  $@@
++$@
++$@
  $@@
(|`$@
,|)$@
   $@@
o/$@
/o$@
  $@@
 ( $@
(_X$@
   $@@
'$@
 $@
 $@@
 /~$@
`\_$@
   $@@
~\ $@
_/`$@
   $@@
x$@
 $@
 $@@
_|_$@
 | $@
   $@@
 $@
,$@
 $@@
__$@
  $@
  $@@
 $@
.$@
 $@@
 /$@
/ $@
  $@@
/\$@
\/$@
  $@@
|$@
|$@
 $@@
')$@
/_$@
  $@@
')$@
,)$@
  $@@
|_|_$@
  | $@
    $@@
[ $@
,)$@
  $@@
 / $@
(_)$@
   $@@
-/$@
/ $@
  $@@
 o $@
(_)$@
   $@@
(_)$@
 / $@
   $@@
.$@
.$@
 $@@
.$@
,$@
 $@@
 /$@
`\$@
  $@@
__$@
~~$@
  $@@
\ $@
/`$@
  $@@
')$@
! $@
  $@@
 _ $@
(a'$@
   $@@
 /\ $$@
/--\$$@
    $$@@
|)$@
|)$@
  $@@
/`$@
\,$@
  $@@
|\$@
|/$@
  $@@
[$@
[$@
 $@@
[$@
|$@
 $@@
/`$@
\]$@
  $@@
|_|$@
| |$@
   $@@
|$@
|$@
 $@@
 |$@
,|$@
  $@@
|/$@
|\$@
  $@@
| $@
|_$@
  $@@
|\/|$@
|  |$@
    $@@
|\ |$@
| \|$@
    $@@
/\$@
\/$@
  $@@
|)$@
| $@
  $@@
/\$@
\X$@
  $@@
|)$@
|\$@
  $@@
(`$@
,)$@
  $@@
-|-$@
 | $@
   $@@
| |$@
|_|$@
   $@@
\  /$@
 \/ $@
    $@@
\   /$@
 \^/ $@
     $@@
\/$@
/\$@
  $@@
\ /$@
 | $@
   $@@
-/$@
/_$@
  $@@
|`$@
|_$@
  $@@
\ $@
 \$@
  $@@
`|$@
_|$@
  $@@
/\$@
  $@
  $@@
  $@
__$@
  $@@
\$@
 $@
 $@@
  $@
(|$@
  $@@
| $@
|)$@
  $@@
 $@
($@
 $@@
 |$@
(|$@
  $@@
  $@
('$@
  $@@
+`$@
| $@
  $@@
  $@
(|$@
,|$@@
| $@
|)$@
  $@@
.$@
|$@
 $@@
.$@
|$@
|$@@
|,$@
|\$@
  $@@
|$@
|$@
 $@@
   $@
|))$@
   $@@
  $@
|)$@
  $@@
  $@
()$@
  $@@
  $@
|)$@
| $@@
  $@
(|$@
 |$@@
  $@
|`$@
  $@@
_$@
>$@
 $@@
+$@
|$@
 $@@
  $@
||$@
  $@@
  $@
\/$@
  $@@
   $@
\^/$@
   $@@
  $@
><$@
  $@@
  $@
\/$@
/ $@@
_$@
<$@
 $@@
_($@
~($@
  $@@
|$@
|$@
 $@@
)_$@
)~$@
  $@@
^v$@
  $@
  $@@
'^'$@
/-\$@
   $@@
'^'$@
\_/$@
   $@@
|"|$@
|_|$@
   $@@
..$@
(|$@
  $@@
..$@
()$@
  $@@
..$@
||$@
  $@@
|) $@
|_)$@
   $@@
------------------------------------------------------------------

Bye,

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 3 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Actually, on examination, the only character missing was the < character
>>from Group 4 as soon as that was added the rest came right.  

>       |_|           . +             |, _               +             |
>       | | (' \/ ,   | |   \^/ () |` |\ >   (| |` (' (| |   |) () \^/ .
>              /                             ,|

And...it isn't too bad in the original ejm3line.flf with single
spacing between letters:


--------------  ejm3line.flf ---------------------------------------


  |_|       .+         |,_          +         |
  | |('\/,  ||  \^/()|`|\>  (||`('(||  |)()\^/.
       /                    ,|

,,,,\
````/

/    .   _+    \
\  |)|(|~>|\/  /
   |  ,|   /


/  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  \
\  | |\]~,) |  |   /


(    .   _+    )
(  |)|(|~>|\/  )
   |  ,|   /


(  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  )
(  | |\]~,) |  |   )


|`    .   _+    `|
|_  |)|(|~>|\/  _|
    |  ,|   /


|`  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  `|
|_  | |\]~,) |  |   _|



---------- ejm3ds.flf ----------------------------------------------


  |_|           . +             |, _               +             |
  | | (' \/ ,   | |   \^/ () |` |\ >   (| |` (' (| |   |) () \^/ .
         /                             ,|

__ __ __ __ \
~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ /`


 /~      .       _ +      ~\
`\_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _/`
      |    ,|        /


 /~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~\
`\_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _/`


_(~      .       _ +      ~)_
~(_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _)~
      |    ,|        /


_(~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~)_
~(_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _)~


|~      .       _ +      ~|
|_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _|
     |    ,|        /


|~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~|
|_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _|

--------------------------------------------------------------------


I changed the hyphen again from -- to ~~ , the curly brackets

      _(        _(~                                   |`      |~
from  ~(   to   ~(_    and the square [ brackets from |_  to  |_


Enough tinkering?

All you need to do to change ejm3ds back to ejm3line is remove the
extra # sign from each character except the first character 'space'.

Bye,

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 5 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
My ISP is experiencing problems (again! and things were going so well
for a while there) so I am reposting this from news. instead of usenet.


In article <899...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
> >I do not know what is making me get this error at the end, you probably left
> >out some characters somewhere, but I fixed it up as best as I could with the
> >help of the FIGLET Windows version error messages. First, I had to change the
> >number of comment lines from 14 to 15, and then the rest of the errors was that
> >the @ didn't all line up. As for the rest of it, I have no idea. Like I said,
> >it's probably omitted characters.
> 
> CHKFONT.EXE gave the following response:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR- Filename does not end with '.flf'.
> EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR (fatal)- Unexpected end of file after line 319.
> **********************************************************************
> EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 2, Warnings: 0
> EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 7
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> So...I added one set of blanks at the end of the letters:
> 
> @
> @
> @@
> 
> And...bingo...it came right:
> 
> EJM3LINE.FLF: ERROR- Filename does not end with '.flf'.
> ***********************************************************************
> EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 1, Warnings: 0
> EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 7
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Actually your original worked OK with Figlet even with the "fatal
> error". Go figure.
> 
> Here is the output from Figlet and you will see that it starts to go
> wrong in Group 4 and Group 5 has an extra character after the Z and
> then it all goes haywire. It wants checking out carefully:
[snip]
> |_|_      .  .  ,  \  ')   _    /\
>   |       .  ,  `  /  !   (a'  /--\
> 
[snip]
> 
> And here are those required characters again:
> 
> 2   ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /
> 3   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
> 4   : ; < = > ? @
> 5   ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
> 6   [ \ ]  ^ _ `
> 7   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
> 8   { | } ~
>     ..  ..  ..  ..  ..  ..
> 9   A   O   U   a   o   u   sz

Thanks, Colin and Lester (? I never saw that particular post for some
reason) for checking that for me. I was very confused at first that it
was so out of alignment. But...
        ___ 
      _/   |   \_,^%---
     |_____|     <\ \ Oops!! It's because I left out the equal sign!
       ---  ==   >/
     [_____]   __>,^
ejm   |   |   //| |

Here it is again.

flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14
ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Jun 1998
 
Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
15   - number of comment lines
 
$$@
$$@
$$@@
|@
.@
@@
''@
  @
  @@
++@
++@
  @@
(|`@
,|)@
   @@
o/@
/o@
  @@
 ( @
(_X@
   @@
'@
 @
 @@
/@
\@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
x@
 @
 @@
_|_@
 | @
 @@
 @
,@
 @@
 @
_@
 @@
 @
.@
 @@
 /@
/ @
 @@
/\@
\/@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
')@
/_@
 @@
')@
,)@
 @@
|_|_@
  | @
  @@
[ @
,)@
  @@
 / @
(_)@
  @@
-/@
/ @
  @@
 o @
(_)@
  @@
(_)@
 / @
  @@
.@
.@
 @@
.@
,@
 @@
,@
`@
 @@
_@
-@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
')@
! @
  @@
 _ @
(a'@
   @@
 /\ @
/--\@
    @@
|)@
|)@
  @@
/`@
\,@
  @@
|\@
|/@
  @@
[@
[@
 @@
[@
|@
 @@
/`@
\]@
  @@
|_|@
| |@
   @@
|@
|@
 @@
 |@
,|@
  @@
|/@
|\@
  @@
| @
|_@
  @@
|\/|@
|  |@
    @@
|\ |@
| \|@
    @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|)@
| @
  @@
/\@
\X@
  @@
|)@
|\@
  @@
(`@
,)@
  @@
-|-@
 | @
   @@
| |@
|_|@
   @@
\  /@
 \/ @
    @@
\   /@
 \^/ @
     @@
\/@
/\@
  @@
\ /@
 | @
   @@
-/@
/_@
  @@
|`@
|_@
  @@
\ @
 \@
  @@
`|@
_|@
  @@
/\@
  @
  @@
  @
__@
  @@
\@
 @
 @@
  @
(|@
  @@
| @
|)@
  @@
 @
(@
 @@
 |@
(|@
  @@
  @
('@
  @@
+`@
| @
  @@
 @
(|@
,|@@
| @
|)@
  @@
.@
|@
 @@
.@
|@
|@@
|,@
|\@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
   @
|))@
   @@
  @
|)@
  @@
  @
()@
  @@
  @
|)@
| @@
  @
(|@
 |@@
  @
|`@
  @@
_@
>@
 @@
+@
|@
 @@
  @
||@
  @@
  @
\/@
  @@
   @
\^/@
   @@
  @
><@
  @@
  @
\/@
/ @@
_@
<@
 @@
(@
(@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
)@
)@
 @@
^v@
  @
  @@
'^'@
/-\@
   @@
'^'@
\_/@
   @@
|"|@
|_|@
   @@
..@
(|@
  @@
..@
()@
  @@
..@
||@
  @@
|) @
|_)@
   @@

I hope I haven't left anything out... or added anything that shouldn't
be there..


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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 5 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
(My ISP is experiencing problems - again! and things were going so well
for a while there - so I am reposting this from news. instead of
usenet.)


In article <899...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>Actually, on examination, the only character missing was the < character
> >>from Group 4 as soon as that was added the rest came right.
> 
> >       |_|           . +             |, _               +             |
> >       | | (' \/ ,   | |   \^/ () |` |\ >   (| |` (' (| |   |) () \^/ .
> >              /                             ,|
> 
> And...it isn't too bad in the original ejm3line.flf with single
> spacing between letters:
> 
> --------------  ejm3line.flf ---------------------------------------
> 
>   |_|       .+         |,_          +         |
>   | |('\/,  ||  \^/()|`|\>  (||`('(||  |)()\^/.
>        /                    ,|
> 
> ,,,,\
> ````/
> 
> /    .   _+    \
> \  |)|(|~>|\/  /
>    |  ,|   /
> 
> /  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  \
> \  | |\]~,) |  |   /
> 
> (    .   _+    )
> (  |)|(|~>|\/  )
>    |  ,|   /
> 
> (  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  )
> (  | |\]~,) |  |   )
> 
> |`    .   _+    `|
> |_  |)|(|~>|\/  _|
>     |  ,|   /
> 
> |`  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  `|
> |_  | |\]~,) |  |   _|
> 
> ---------- ejm3ds.flf ----------------------------------------------
> 
>   |_|           . +             |, _               +             |
>   | | (' \/ ,   | |   \^/ () |` |\ >   (| |` (' (| |   |) () \^/ .
>          /                             ,|
> 
> __ __ __ __ \
> ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ /`
> 
>  /~      .       _ +      ~\
> `\_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _/`
>       |    ,|        /
> 
>  /~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~\
> `\_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _/`
> 
> _(~      .       _ +      ~)_
> ~(_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _)~
>       |    ,|        /
> 
> _(~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~)_
> ~(_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _)~
> 
> |~      .       _ +      ~|
> |_   |) | (| ~~ > | \/   _|
>      |    ,|        /
> 
> |~   |) | /`    (` -|- \ /   ~|
> |_   |  | \] ~~ ,)  |   |    _|
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I changed the hyphen again from -- to ~~ , the curly brackets
> 
>       _(        _(~                                   |`      |~
> from  ~(   to   ~(_    and the square [ brackets from |_  to  |_
> 
> Enough tinkering?
> 
> All you need to do to change ejm3ds back to ejm3line is remove the
> extra # sign from each character except the first character 'space'.
> 
> Bye,

Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.

        ___  ???/\
      _/   |===%^,  But what have you done to my characters???
     |_____|    \/>
       ---  ==     >
     [_____]     __>,^
ejm   |   |     //| |

Please, please, I don't care for those changes at all. Call me a purist,
but here are my characters as I would like them to look:

ejm3line


|  '' ++  (|` o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_     _      /
.     ++  ,|) /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,     .  /

/\  |  ')  ') |_|_  [   /   -/  o  (_)
\/  |  /_  ,)   |   ,) (_)  /  (_)  /


. .  ,  _   \  ')  _
. ,  `  -   /  !  (a'


 /\  |) /` |\ [ [ /` |_| |  | |/ |  |\/| |\ |
/--\ |) \, |/ [ | \] | | | ,| |\ |_ |  | | \|

/\ |) /\ |) (` -|- | | \  / \   / \/ \ /  -/
\/ |  \X |\ ,)  |  |_|  \/   \^/  /\  |   /_



|`  \   `|  /\     \     
|_   \  _|     __



   |     |    +`    |  . . |, |
(| |) ( (| (' |  (| |) | | |\ | |)) |) ()
                 ,|      |

          _  +                   _
|) (|  |` >  | || \/ \\/  >< \/  <
|   |                        /


(  |  )  ^v
(  |  )

..  ..   ..   |)
(|  ()   ||   |_)



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>Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.
>
>        ___  ???/\
>      _/   |===%^,  But what have you done to my characters???
>     |_____|    \/>
>       ---  ==     >
>     [_____]     __>,^
>ejm   |   |     //| |
>
>Please, please, I don't care for those changes at all. Call me a purist,
>but here are my characters as I would like them to look:

Just for the record, I didn't change any of the characters. I just tried to get
the FLF file you posted to work properly.
.
http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm  -  Ansi home page 
FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi  - To download the ANSI format

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 7 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.
>>
>>        ___  ???/\
>>      _/   |===%^,  But what have you done to my characters???
>>     |_____|    \/>
>>       ---  ==     >
>>     [_____]     __>,^
>>ejm   |   |     //| |
>>
>>Please, please, I don't care for those changes at all. Call me a purist,
>>but here are my characters as I would like them to look:

>Just for the record, I didn't change any of the characters. I just tried to get
>the FLF file you posted to work properly.

Well llizard's post about this has not reached me here because I am also
having problems with a flakey newsfeed right now.  :-(


Whatever...I'm afraid chkfont.exe gave the following errors with
llizard's repost of her font:

**********************************************************************
EJM3LINE.FLF: Too many errors.
EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 21, Warnings: 3
EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 5
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The main problem was the alignment of the figlet control line
limiters some of which were which were inserted as...

    @                               @
    @     instead of the correct    @
   @@                               @@


Also the header had a discrepancy on the number of comment lines:

> flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14  <== Wrong, should have been 15 here.

> 15   - number of comment lines


So here is the output from the code-corrected version of what llizard posted:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

')      |  ''  ++  (|`  o/   (   '  /  \  x  _|_            /
/_      .      ++  ,|)  /o  (_X     \  /      |   ,  _  .  /

')      /\  |  ')  ')  |_|_  [    /   -/   o   (_)
,)      \/  |  /_  ,)    |   ,)  (_)  /   (_)   /

|_|_      .  .  ,  _  \  ')   _
  |       .  ,  `  -  /  !   (a'

[
,)

 /\ |)/`|\[[/`|_|| ||/| |\/||\ |/\|)/\|)(`-|-| |\  /\   /\/\ /-/
/--\|)\,|/[|\]| ||,||\|_|  || \|\/| \X|\,) | |_| \/  \^/ /\ | /_

 /       |`  \   `|    /\      \
(_)      |_   \  _|        __

-/        |   |  +` | ..|,|             _+           _
/       (||)((|('|(||)|||\||))|)()|)(||`>|||\/\^/><\/<
                  ,|   |          |  |             /

 o       (  |  )  ^v
(_)      (  |  )

(_)                            __
 /                             ><

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Any changed characters llizard has been seeing in postings are
changes I have made.


Why did I make those changes?

Well, I don't think the _ for hyphen in Group 2 works because it is
positioned too low in hyphenated words and too low  for a minus
sign.
                        \
The identical character /  is used for both  ) and >

                                     ,                /
In Group 4 the character for <  is   `   instead of   \   which seems strange
but if it was the latter then it would be identical to the character for (
                 _
The equals sign  -  does not look too good in an arrow ---->


Below are illustrations of the things mentioned above:


Hyphen too low:

/    .   _+    \
\  |)|(|_>|\/  /
   |  ,|   /


/  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  \
\  | |\]_,) |  |   /

                              ,               /
Group 4 character for <  is   `  instead of   \

,,
``    .   _+   \\
   |)|(|_>|\/  //
   |  ,|   /

             _
Equals sign  -  not so good in an arrow   ---->  etc.

____\
----/


Whatever...the figletised version of ejm3line.flf using exactly the
characters listed by llizard but with the coding errors corrected
to satisfy CHKFONT is given below:


------------ ejm3line.flf ---------------------------------------

flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 15
ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Jun 1998

Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
15   - number of comment lines

$$@
$$@
$$@@
|@
.@
 @@
''@
  @
  @@
++@
++@
  @@
(|`@
,|)@
   @@
o/@
/o@
  @@
 ( @
(_X@
   @@
'@
 @
 @@
/@
\@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
x@
 @
 @@
_|_@
 | @
   @@
 @
,@
 @@
 @
_@
 @@
 @
.@
 @@
 /@
/ @
  @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
')@
/_@
  @@
')@
,)@
  @@
|_|_@
  | @
    @@
[ @
,)@
  @@
 / @
(_)@
   @@
-/@
/ @
  @@
 o @
(_)@
   @@
(_)@
 / @
   @@
.@
.@
 @@
.@
,@
 @@
,@
`@
 @@
_@
-@
 @@
\@
/@
 @@
')@
! @
  @@
 _ @
(a'@
   @@
 /\ @
/--\@
    @@
|)@
|)@
  @@
/`@
\,@
  @@
|\@
|/@
  @@
[@
[@
 @@
[@
|@
 @@
/`@
\]@
  @@
|_|@
| |@
   @@
|@
|@
 @@
 |@
,|@
  @@
|/@
|\@
  @@
| @
|_@
  @@
|\/|@
|  |@
    @@
|\ |@
| \|@
    @@
/\@
\/@
  @@
|)@
| @
  @@
/\@
\X@
  @@
|)@
|\@
  @@
(`@
,)@
  @@
-|-@
 | @
   @@
| |@
|_|@
   @@
\  /@
 \/ @
    @@
\   /@
 \^/ @
     @@
\/@
/\@
  @@
\ /@
 | @
   @@
-/@
/_@
  @@
|`@
|_@
  @@
\ @
 \@
  @@
`|@
_|@
  @@
/\@
  @
  @@
  @
__@
  @@
\@
 @
 @@
  @
(|@
  @@
| @
|)@
  @@
 @
(@
 @@
 |@
(|@
  @@
  @
('@
  @@
+`@
| @
  @@
  @
(|@
,|@@
| @
|)@
  @@
.@
|@
 @@
.@
|@
|@@
|,@
|\@
  @@
|@
|@
 @@
   @
|))@
   @@
  @
|)@
  @@
  @
()@
  @@
  @
|)@
| @@
  @
(|@
 |@@
  @
|`@
  @@
_@
>@
 @@
+@
|@
 @@
  @
||@
  @@
  @
\/@
  @@
   @
\^/@
   @@
  @
><@
  @@
  @
\/@
/ @@
_@
<@
 @@
(@
(@
 @@
|@
|@
 @@
)@
)@
 @@
^v@
  @
  @@
'^'@
/-\@
   @@
'^'@
\_/@
   @@
|"|@
|_|@
   @@
..@
(|@
  @@
..@
()@
  @@
..@
||@
  @@
|) @
|_)@
   @@
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Phew!!!

Bye,

llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 7 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <899...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.
> >>
> >>        ___  ???/\
> >>      _/   |===%^,  But what have you done to my characters???
> >>     |_____|    \/>
> >>       ---  ==     >
> >>     [_____]     __>,^
> >>ejm   |   |     //| |
> >>
> >>Please, please, I don't care for those changes at all. Call me a purist,
> >>but here are my characters as I would like them to look:
> 
> >Just for the record, I didn't change any of the characters. I just tried to get
> >the FLF file you posted to work properly.
> 
> Well llizard's post about this has not reached me here because I am also
> having problems with a flakey newsfeed right now.  :-(

It wasn't your flakey newsfeed, Colin; it was my flakey newsfeed. *sigh*
(I would have e-mailed you about this. But of course, that's not
possible. But that's another story. No need to explain. Everyone hates
spam. That's why my e-mail address looks slightly different - but is
easily fixed.)

> Whatever...I'm afraid chkfont.exe gave the following errors with
> llizard's repost of her font:
> 
> **********************************************************************
> EJM3LINE.FLF: Too many errors.
> EJM3LINE.FLF: Errors: 21, Warnings: 3
> EJM3LINE.FLF: charwidthlimit: 11, actual max line length: 5
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> The main problem was the alignment of the figlet control line
> limiters some of which were which were inserted as...
> 
>     @                               @
>     @     instead of the correct    @
>    @@                               @@
> 
> Also the header had a discrepancy on the number of comment lines:
> 
> > flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 14  <== Wrong, should have been 15 here.
> 
> > 15   - number of comment lines
> 
[snip]
> 
> Any changed characters llizard has been seeing in postings are
> changes I have made.
> 
> Why did I make those changes?
> 
> Well, I don't think the _ for hyphen in Group 2 works because it is
> positioned too low in hyphenated words and too low  for a minus
> sign.
>                         \
> The identical character /  is used for both  ) and >
> 
>                                      ,                /
> In Group 4 the character for <  is   `   instead of   \   which seems strange
> but if it was the latter then it would be identical to the character for (
>                  _
> The equals sign  -  does not look too good in an arrow ---->
> 
> Below are illustrations of the things mentioned above:
> 
> Hyphen too low:
> 
> /    .   _+    \
> \  |)|(|_>|\/  /
>    |  ,|   /
> 
> /  |)|/` (`-|-\ /  \
> \  | |\]_,) |  |   /
> 
>                               ,               /
> Group 4 character for <  is   `  instead of   \
> 
> ,,
> ``    .   _+   \\
>    |)|(|_>|\/  //
>    |  ,|   /

Wouldn't it come out like this??

  ,,   .   _+   \\
  `` |)|(|_>|\/ //
     |  ,|   /

(Why would anyone want to write <<pigsty>> in Figlet anyway?)

>              _
> Equals sign  -  not so good in an arrow   ---->  etc.
> 
> ____\
> ----/
> 
> Whatever...the figletised version of ejm3line.flf using exactly the
> characters listed by llizard but with the coding errors corrected
> to satisfy CHKFONT is given below:
> 
> ------------ ejm3line.flf ---------------------------------------
> 

[snip]

> _|_@
>  | @
>    @@
>  @
> ,@
>  @@
>  @
> _@
>  @@
>  @
> .@
>  @@
>  /@
> / @
>   @@

[snip]
 
> 
> Phew!!!
> 

        ___ 
      _/   |   \_,^%---
     |_____|     <\ \ Thank you, Colin, for doing that all that work!
       ---  ==   >/
     [_____]   __>,^
  ejm |   |   //| |

Also, thanks for clearing up a few things. I couldn't tell from looking
at other source codes that were posted here where or how exactly the @s
were supposed to be positioned. And I didn't know how to read the header
numbers.

I also didn't notice my error about the hyphen. Of course, I meant for
the hyphen to be in the middle. This is how it should look.

  _@
   @
   @@

When I did this, I wasn't intending for it to be used for ascii-art so
didn't think it necessary to make sure the equal sign and the
greaterthan/lessthan signs should combine well to make arrows.
(Goodness! There are so many unwritten rules about this.) No need to
check it again. It was an interesting exercise though.


NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you
see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e"
to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
--
     ___             llizard aka ejm  cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca
   _/   |   \_,^%---
  |_____|     <\ \ |) | | +  [ \/ |_| /\ | | (` + | |\ | /` |
    ---  ==   >/   |) |_| |  [ /\ | |/--\|_| ,) | | | \| \] .
  [_____]   __>,^
   |   |   //| |      http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 10 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
>In article <899...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
><cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.
>> >>
>> >>        ___  ???/\
>> >>      _/   |===%^,  But what have you done to my characters???
>> >>     |_____|    \/>
>> >>       ---  ==     >
>> >>     [_____]     __>,^
>> >>ejm   |   |     //| |
>> >>
>> >>Please, please, I don't care for those changes at all. Call me a purist,
>> >>but here are my characters as I would like them to look:
>> 
>> >Just for the record, I didn't change any of the characters. I just tried to get
>> >the FLF file you posted to work properly.
>> 
>> Well llizard's post about this has not reached me here because I am also
>> having problems with a flakey newsfeed right now.  :-(

>It wasn't your flakey newsfeed, Colin; it was my flakey newsfeed. *sigh*
>(I would have e-mailed you about this. But of course, that's not
>possible. But that's another story. No need to explain. Everyone hates
>spam. That's why my e-mail address looks slightly different - but is
>easily fixed.)

It seems that both our newsfeeds have been flakey.

My ISP has been changing an upstream server and shifting newsgroups
into a cache to make disk space...things have been quite erratic
here for about 3 weeks now and some posts never seem to arrive. Grrrr.

My public posting address has been spamblocked since last
year...that is a very anti-social method, but I post a lot to many
newsgroups so that my junkmail had reached 150 per month and was
rising fast.


[...snip...]


> Wouldn't it come out like this??

  ,,   .   _+   \\
  `` |)|(|_>|\/ //
     |  ,|   /


Yes, my mistake.


> (Why would anyone want to write <<pigsty>> in Figlet anyway?)

They wouldn't, but they might want to write:

,  |  | -/  _  [ |) [ [ |\ | -|-  -|- /\ |) /\ |\ | -|- /\   /`  /\   \
`  |_ | /_ (a' | |\ [ [ | \|  |  . |  \/ |\ \/ | \|  |  \/ . \, /--\  /


>        ___
>      _/   |   \_,^%---
>     |_____|     <\ \ Thank you, Colin, for doing that all that work!
>       ---  ==   >/
>     [_____]   __>,^
>  ejm |   |   //| |


You're welcome...I've got a bit of an obsession with Figlet at
present...it'll wear off. :-)


> Also, thanks for clearing up a few things. I couldn't tell from
> looking at other source codes that were posted here where or how
> exactly the @s were supposed to be positioned. And I didn't know
> how to read the header numbers.

The @s come at the RH edge of the character and must be in a strict
vertical line and the @@ is always at the very bottom line of the
character...so your letters A and C are coded:

  /\ @
 /--\@
     @@
/`@
\,@
  @@

Note that C is narrower in width than A and the @s have to follow the
width of the letter.

     @
     @
The  @@  shows that it is a 3-line font and in this case the @@ bottom
line is reserved for the tails/descenders of the lower case letters.

To get the characters with a space between them you have to add a $
sign ($ = hard space in Figlet) before every @ so that your A and C
then become:

  /\ $@
 /--\$@
     $@@
/`$@
\,$@
  $@@

I've actually done that for my own use and named the font
ejm3lins.flf, the 's' denoting the spaced version...that's how I
would use your font in practice because it is unreadable without the
spacing between each character.


> I also didn't notice my error about the hyphen. Of course, I meant
> for the hyphen to be in the middle. This is how it should look.

  _@
   @
   @@

OK, just make that alteration in your copy of the figletized font.


> When I did this, I wasn't intending for it to be used for ascii-
> art so didn't think it necessary to make sure the equal sign and
> the greaterthan/lessthan signs should combine well to make arrows.
> (Goodness! There are so many unwritten rules about this.) No need
> to check it again.

> It was an interesting exercise...

>     ___
>   _/   |   \_,^%---
>  |_____|     <\ \ |) | | +  [ \/ |_| /\ | | (` + | |\ | /` |
>    ---  ==   >/   |) |_| |  [ /\ | |/--\|_| ,) | | | \| \] .
>  [_____]   __>,^
>   |   |   //| |


    \ /[|)  |-|-  |(`|\ |'-|-  [ /\ (`\ /|
     | [|,  | |   |,)| \|  |   [/--\,) | .


Or spaced out by my version...ejm3lins.flf:


   \ / [ |)     | -|-   | (` |\ | ' -|-   [  /\  (` \ / |
    |  [ |  ,   |  |    | ,) | \|    |    [ /--\ ,)  |  .


Bye,

llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 11 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <900...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
> >In article <899...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
> ><cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> >>
> >> Lester5374 <les...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>Thanks for checking the font, Colin and Lester.
[snip]
> > (Why would anyone want to write <<pigsty>> in Figlet anyway?)
> 
> They wouldn't, but they might want to write:
> 
> ,  |  | -/  _  [ |) [ [ |\ | -|-  -|- /\ |) /\ |\ | -|- /\   /`  /\   \
> `  |_ | /_ (a' | |\ [ [ | \|  |  . |  \/ |\ \/ | \|  |  \/ . \, /--\  /

In which case, they probably would  not feel the need to put in those
characters at all and simply write:

/` /\ [ |_|_ -/ _  [ |) [ [ |\ | [ -|-  -|- /\ |) /\ |\ | -|- /\   /` 
/\ 
\, \X ,)  |  / (a' | |\ [ [ | \| [  |  . |  \/ |\ \/ | \|  |  \/ . \,
/--\

> >      _/   |   \_,^%---
> >     |_____|     <\ \ Thank you, Colin, for doing that all that work!
[snip]
> You're welcome...I've got a bit of an obsession with Figlet at
> present...it'll wear off. :-)
> 
> > Also, thanks for clearing up a few things. I couldn't tell from
> > looking at other source codes that were posted here where or how
> > exactly the @s were supposed to be positioned. And I didn't know
> > how to read the header numbers.
> 
> The @s come at the RH edge of the character and must be in a strict
> vertical line and the @@ is always at the very bottom line of the
> character...so your letters A and C are coded:
> 
>   /\ @
>  /--\@
>      @@
> /`@
> \,@
>   @@
> 
> Note that C is narrower in width than A and the @s have to follow the
> width of the letter.
> 
>      @
>      @
> The  @@  shows that it is a 3-line font and in this case the @@ bottom
> line is reserved for the tails/descenders of the lower case letters.
> 
> To get the characters with a space between them you have to add a $
> sign ($ = hard space in Figlet) before every @ so that your A and C
> then become:
> 
>   /\ $@
>  /--\$@
>      $@@
> /`$@
> \,$@
>   $@@
> 
> I've actually done that for my own use and named the font
> ejm3lins.flf, the 's' denoting the spaced version...that's how I
> would use your font in practice because it is unreadable without the
> spacing between each character.
> 
> > I also didn't notice my error about the hyphen. Of course, I meant
> > for the hyphen to be in the middle. This is how it should look.
> 
>   _@
>    @
>    @@
> 
> OK, just make that alteration in your copy of the figletized font.

Thank you again, Colin. I think I am beginning to get a handle on this.
I have another (probably colossally dumb) question. Which lines exactly
are the comment lines so that I know how to change that? In the
following example under the dotted line, I count 15 lines including the
blank lines between the date and explanation and between the "number of
comment line" and the first set of characters. Is that correct? 


flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 15
ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
<www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
Date: 23 Jun 1998

Explanation of first line:
flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
a    - should always be `a', for now
$    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
3    - height of a character
2    - height of a character, not including descenders
11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
15   - number of comment lines
 
|$@
.$@
 $@@
''$@
  $@
  $@@
[snip of rest of characters]


NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you
see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e"
to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
--
     ___           llizard aka ejm    cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca
   _/   |   \_,^%--- ha           
  |_____|     <\ \ ha  Of course, I *still* don't know what extension
    ---  ==   >/    ha   to use so it will run on my computer....
  [_____]   __>,^
   |   |   //| |             www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 12 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:

>Thank you again, Colin. I think I am beginning to get a handle on this.
>I have another (probably colossally dumb) question. Which lines exactly
>are the comment lines so that I know how to change that? In the
>following example under the dotted line, I count 15 lines including the
>blank lines between the date and explanation and between the "number of
>comment line" and the first set of characters. Is that correct? 

Nope...you cannot start from the date...

The comment lines fooled me for some time until I studied the
headers of a number of fonts.

The very first line is "Figlet's Control Line" and does _NOT_ count
as a comment line (which is actually an abbreviation of the listed
comments, the 15 number specifying the number of comment lines).

The _second_ line following the Control Line is actually the first
Comment Line and you count from there including any blank lines till
the characters begin.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
       flf2a$ 3 2 11 0 15  <== Figlet Control...doesn't count as a comment
1)     ejm3line.flf font by llizard aka ejm
2)     <www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/>
3)     Figlet release 2.0 -- August 5, 1993
4)     Date: 23 Jun 1998
5)
6)     Explanation of first line:
7)     flf2 - "magic number" for file identification
8)     a    - should always be `a', for now
9)     $    - the "hardblank" -- prints as a blank, but can't be smushed
10)    3    - height of a character
11)    2    - height of a character, not including descenders
12)    11   - max line length (excluding comment lines) + a fudge factor
13)    0    - default smushmode for this font (like "-m 0" on command line)
14)    15   - number of comment lines
15)
       $$@
       $$@
       $$@@
       |$@
       .$@
        $@@
       ''$@
         $@
         $@@
       ++$@
       ++$@
         $@@
[snip of rest of characters]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The best way to check is using CHKFONT.EXE  which comes with
FIGLET.EXE in the Figlet package along wiht the common Fonts.

Have you not got CHKFONT.EXE ?

Bye,

In article <900...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
<cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
> 
> >Thank you again, Colin.
[snip]
> The best way to check is using CHKFONT.EXE  which comes with
> FIGLET.EXE in the Figlet package along wiht the common Fonts.
> 
> Have you not got CHKFONT.EXE ?

No, because I have always gotten any figlet fonts directly from the web.
I suppose I may have to download it so that I can actually use my figlet
font unless anyone knows an extension I can use without downloading
anything.


NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you
see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e"
to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
--
llizard aka ejm
cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca                                     ,^
ASCII-ar+, ASCII and gif anima+ions             ===%^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/           "    "

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 13 Jul 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
>In article <900...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite
><cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> >Thank you again, Colin.
>[snip]
>> The best way to check is using CHKFONT.EXE  which comes with
>> FIGLET.EXE in the Figlet package along wiht the common Fonts.
>> 
>> Have you not got CHKFONT.EXE ?

>No, because I have always gotten any figlet fonts directly from the web.
>I suppose I may have to download it so that I can actually use my figlet
>font unless anyone knows an extension I can use without downloading
>anything.

Well if you get the Figlet package via the official website you will 
find that the package contains the progams figlet.exe; chkfont.exe;
a big selection of Fonts and the file figfont.txt that tells just 
about everything you need to know about figlet fonts and how to make 
them.

-rw-r--r--   1 figlet   NEXUS   221939 Dec  8  1997 figdos22.zip

The official FIGlet web page: 

     http://st-www.cs.uiuc.edu/~chai/figlet.html

Armed with that package you will be able to use "Your Very Own Figfont"
to write messages like:


|_|    | |      [
| | (' | | ()   [ \/ (' |` \/ () |) (' ,
                           /

|            _         |       _     |       . + |
|   (| |))   > ()   |) | (' (| > (' (|   \^/ | | |)   |)) \/
                    |                                     /
'' \  /            /\          [ .    +`       + ''   + |     +   |
    \/  (' |` \/   \/ \^/ |)   | | (| |  () |) |      | |) (| |   |
              /                    ,|
|              |      .  |     |   +             . +
|) (| \/ ('   (| (' ( | (| (' (|   | ()   \^/ |` | | ('   \/ () ||
                                                          /
+ |  . _          _ _            .      . +     |_|
| |) | >   |)) (' > > (| (| ('   | |)   | | .   | | () |) ('   \/ () ||
                         ,|                            |       /
| . |,      . + |
| | |\ ('   | | .

                  \ /          _     | | . _        |
                   |  () || |` > ,   | | | < (| |` (|

Bye,

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