Re: REQ: Any Islamic Art Asciis?
Bateau wrote in message ... >>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite >>pacifistic, actually. > >Then you are not truely islamic. Really? There isn't any religious faith on this earth that requires people to kill other people (other than devil worship) >>My wife (also a non-murdering Muslim) is from Indonesia. I have been there >>twice so far (where nobody seemed to be killing anybody else), and met my >>in-laws (who are also non-violent). > >Hahahahahahaha indonesia isn't violent? The vast majority of Indonesians aren't. There are extremists, and seperatists, who want their particular islands to be seperated. There are demonstrations against the government (who are quite unpopular at the moment, and there are allegations of corruption). Plus, the economy is shot to hell. These are all problems that, in the past, have plagued various major powers globally. Look at Argentina; they're a majority Christian populace, and they're having similar difficulties (albeit without claims for independance as Indonesia has had to deal with). Aside from the Falklands conflict, they're not a violent population either. >>I went to visit all her old school friends (none of whom are killers) and >>met many people whom I now consider to be friends (and not murderers). >> >>The mere mention of the names "Osama bin Laden" or "Saddam Hussein" is not >>taboo as such, but is treated with scorn. The average Islamic person does >>not follow the extremist (bin Laden) or fundamentalist (Taliban) viewpoint >>that the Koran must be followed to the letter. > >Then why follow it at all? Because all of the rest of the Koran's content promotes a civil and peaceful existance, teaches virtue, and shows man that for all his worldly power, he is nothing compared to the power of Allah (in exactly the same way the Bible does). Further to the Koran / Bible comparison, the Adam and Eve story, Noah's Ark, Moses, and many other major Bible stories are also included in the Koran. >>Most of them treat it like the average Christian treats the Bible - they >>don't take the killing parts literally. > >How are you supposed to take them? These are treated in context of society. Do you think that the Pope considers these to be the will of God? >>Don't pass off all Muslims as violent killers bent on world domination, >>because it's simply not true. > >They all support muslim invasion and oppression of other countries. >Their religion requires them to. What part of their religion requires them to invade, or support the invasion of other countries? I've never been told to do that, and neither have any of my in-laws. obascii: Mosque and Church + |__ .' `.`. c* | ^ |]| .-'-. | |_|___ ( ) _L .' '. `. |"""""""|"-|| .' '.___ `. | _ | || | .;. | ""| | | | | [|| | | | | ||| ||| _|__|_|__|__||____________|__|_|_|__|_____|_ -- Graeme Porter -^-_ _ / [_][_]_:_ Proud owner of a 1978 /| _||_ v Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit | / \ | -=/=\\____//=\=jaa "I married Miss right, I just didn't know her first name was 'Always'" -- Anonymous
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