Re: REQ: Any Islamic Art Asciis?
From Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza>
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· 2 Dec 2003 09:19 · View full thread
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>Bateau wrote in message ...
>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>>one particular religion.
>>
>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>
>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
>pacifistic, actually.
Then you are not truely islamic.
>My wife (also a non-murdering Muslim) is from Indonesia. I have been there
>twice so far (where nobody seemed to be killing anybody else), and met my
>in-laws (who are also non-violent).
Hahahahahahaha indonesia isn't violent?
>I went to visit all her old school friends (none of whom are killers) and
>met many people whom I now consider to be friends (and not murderers).
>
>The mere mention of the names "Osama bin Laden" or "Saddam Hussein" is not
>taboo as such, but is treated with scorn. The average Islamic person does
>not follow the extremist (bin Laden) or fundamentalist (Taliban) viewpoint
>that the Koran must be followed to the letter.
Then why follow it at all?
>Most of them treat it like the average Christian treats the Bible - they
>don't take the killing parts literally.
How are you supposed to take them?
>In fact, Islam and Christianity are so similar it's unreal. The Koran
>even recognizes Jesus (although not as the son of God but as a great
>prophet). The Koran's Christ-like figure Mohammed is not revered as the
>son of God either; he is known as the last prophet.
>
>I spoke to my sister-in-law very shortly after September 11th 2001. She
>- and the rest of our family - was absolutely shocked and disgusted with
>the events that took place on that day. She was saddened and frightened
>that those lives were taken "in the name of Allah".
>
>The fighting in Indonesia at the moment is mostly civil unrest due to the
>independance of East Timor, and the other islands that are trying to
>seperate from central Indonesian rule. There is very little fighting
>between the Muslim majority population and the Christian/Bhuddist/Hindu
>people (who make up the 25% of the population who are not Islamic).
>
>They're a good people. They don't kill because their holy book tells
>them to. In fact, the vast majority of them don't kill at all.
>
>Any Islamic fundamentalist or extremist who kills in the name of Allah is
>doing so because that's what they were brought up to do from a very early
>age. It's all they know, and all they have ever known.
>
>Don't pass off all Muslims as violent killers bent on world domination,
>because it's simply not true.
They all support muslim invasion and oppression of other countries.
Their religion requires them to.
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