Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 5 Aug 1998.
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I'm having problems. [& 6-line PIC]
alt.ascii-art
· 21 messages · 5 Aug 1998 - 18 Aug 1998
AAAers:
I'm really confused, can anyone help...
I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's
something wrong with the posts I'm seeing.
Many NEW Messages I saw only a couple of days previous have totally
disappeared, but many older messages remain...!?
I read loads of Replies but the original message doesn't seem to
exist!?!
I can't figure out what anyone is talking about because I don't think
I'm getting all the posts... HELP!
Anyone having similar problems? anyone know how to fix it?
Also, when I try to post messages it sit for ages then says some
nonsense about failing, and logs that post in my outbox as NOT sent.
However, if I try again a few times and get the same result I find
I've bombarded the group with multiple posts!! even though Agent says
it was NEVER sent successfully.!?
SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!
Anyway, here is a 6 line ASCII pic of a baby & his favourite toy to
keep you happy:
1 ,=""=,
2 c , _,{
3 /\ @ ) __
4 / ^~~^\ <=.,__/ '}=
5 (_/ ,, ,,) \_ _>_/~
6 ~\_(/-\)'-,_,_,_,-'(_)-(_) -Naughty
:nathaN
AAAers:
I'm really confused, can anyone help...
I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's
something wrong with the posts I'm seeing.
Many NEW Messages I saw only a couple of days previous have totally
disappeared, but many older messages remain...!?
I read loads of Replies but the original message doesn't seem to
exist!?!
I can't figure out what anyone is talking about because I don't think
I'm getting all the posts... HELP!
Anyone having similar problems? anyone know how to fix it?
Also, when I try to post messages it sit for ages then says some
nonsense about failing, and logs that post in my outbox as NOT sent.
However, if I try again a few times and get the same result I find
I've bombarded the group with multiple posts!! even though Agent says
it was NEVER sent successfully.!?
SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!
Anyway, here is a 6 line ASCII pic of a baby & his favourite toy to
keep you happy:
1 ,=""=,
2 c , _,{
3 /\ @ ) __
4 / ^~~^\ <=.,__/ '}=
5 (_/ ,, ,,) \_ _>_/~
6 ~\_(/-\)'-,_,_,_,-'(_)-(_) -Naughty
Best viewed in "FixedSYS"
:nathaN
Naughty <nat...@no2spam.virtek.com> wrote: >AAAers: >I'm really confused, can anyone help... >I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's >something wrong with the posts I'm seeing. Your configuration of Forte Free Agent is faulty. In Free agent there are heaps of configuration settings and options for the user to set-up and you have to get every one of them right to suit your own personal preferences. Ask your question in the newsgroup: alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent Bye,
In article <35c...@news.virtek.com>, nat...@no2spam.virtek.com (Naughty) wrote: > > AAAers: > > I'm really confused, can anyone help... > I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's [snip] > Anyway, here is a 6 line ASCII pic of a baby & his favourite toy to > keep you happy: > > 1 ,=""=, > 2 c , _,{ > 3 /\ @ ) __ > 4 / ^~~^\ <=.,__/ '}= > 5 (_/ ,, ,,) \_ _>_/~ > 6 ~\_(/-\)'-,_,_,_,-'(_)-(_) -Naughty > > :nathaN I hope you got your Agent problems fixed. Sorry, I don't use Agent, even though we have it here. My newsreader of choice is WinVN but since we had so many problems with our newsservers and had to constantly switch from internal server to internal server, I now use Netscape because it allows switching without refreshing. However, the point of this reply is to say what an excellent baby! I especially like the blank look on his face. He must be preparing to be a cyber baby. NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ _/ |===%^, |_____| __\/> llizard aka ejm --- == > cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII & gif anima+ions ejm | | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
Naughty <nat...@no2spam.virtek.com> wrote: >AAAers: >I'm really confused, can anyone help... >I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's >something wrong with the posts I'm seeing. >Many NEW Messages I saw only a couple of days previous have totally >disappeared, but many older messages remain...!? >I read loads of Replies but the original message doesn't seem to >exist!?! >I can't figure out what anyone is talking about because I don't think >I'm getting all the posts... HELP! >Anyone having similar problems? anyone know how to fix it? >SOMEBODY HELP ME!!! [...posted and mailed...] (the email may not get through because it looks like a spamblocked address) You've posted this message once before and I replied to it so you obviously are having problems not seeing all the posts. Let's try once more... Your configuration of Free Agent is faulty. Ask your questions in the newsgroup: alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent If you use Free Agent regularly you should add the above newsgroup to the list of newsgroups you read. It is an excellent newsgroup with a Guru who answers everybody's questions daily. Read it! Not all alt.* newsgroups are crap. Bye,
Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: >>SOMEBODY HELP ME!!! >[...posted and mailed...] >(the email may not get through because it looks like a spamblocked address) Yeah, as I thought the email has bounced back into my mailbox. This could go on a hell of a long time with Naughty reposting his message and then not seeing any replies. Munged addresses! Bleah! I give up! Bye,
AAAers:
I'm really confused, can anyone help...
I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's
something wrong with the posts I'm seeing.
Many NEW Messages I saw only a couple of days previous have totally
disappeared, but many older messages remain...!?
I read loads of Replies but the original message doesn't seem to
exist!?!
I can't figure out what anyone is talking about because I don't think
I'm getting all the posts... HELP!
Anyone having similar problems? anyone know how to fix it?
SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!
Anyway, here is a 6 line ASCII pic of a baby & his favourite toy to
keep you happy:
1 ,=""=,
2 c , _,{
3 /\ @ ) __
4 / ^~~^\ <=.,__/ '}=
5 (_/ ,, ,,) \_ _>_/~
6 ~\_(/-\)'-,_,_,_,-'(_)-(_) -Naughty
Best viewed in "FixedSYS"
:nathaN
In article <902...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > > Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > > > Naughty <nat...@no2spam.virtek.com> wrote: > > [snip] > > >I'm using Forte Free Agent to view this newsgroup and I'm SURE there's > > >something wrong with the posts I'm seeing. > > >SOMEBODY HELP ME!!! > > >[...posted and mailed...] > > >(the email may not get through because it looks like a spamblocked address) > > Yeah, as I thought the email has bounced back into my mailbox. > > This could go on a hell of a long time with Naughty reposting his message > and then not seeing any replies. > > Munged addresses! Bleah! I give up! > > Bye, Colin, Colin, Colin! If I could e-mail this to you, I would. I just e-mailed Naughty and I'm pretty sure it went through. You have to REMOVE the "no2spam." from Naughty's address before sending e-mail to him. (You did do that, right?) NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- llizard aka ejm cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca ha ,^ http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/ ha ---%^^^^^^^^^^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII and gif anima+ions ha / " "
In article <902...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > > llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: > > >Colin, Colin, Colin! If I could e-mail this to you, I would. I just > >e-mailed Naughty and I'm pretty sure it went through. You have to REMOVE > >the "no2spam." from Naughty's address before sending e-mail to him. > > (You did do that, right?) > > Nope...I just used the on-line TIN newsreader which has the 'R' > option for "Reply to poster" and does not require messing around > with spamblocked addresses...just type 'R' and press Enter and bingo > off goes the message...then I just type 'F' for "Followup" and TIN > posts the same message publicly in the newsgroup as well. > > Whoopdedoo! magically simple eh? None of this stuffing around with > unmungeing email addresses. > > I can't be bothered with mungeing...if messages bounce then they > bounce...end of story. Hah! > > Oh well, I hope someone in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent > newsgroup is as kind and emails replies to any questions Naughty > might ask in that newsgroup. [snip] > Bye, . ha ^^^^%--- ha " \ ha You slay me, Colin. As it happens, Naughty saw your post about that newsgroup. I e-mailed him with no difficulty at all (it couldn't have been simpler; when I hit reply, I just removed the "no2spam." from his address and clicked on "send") and he replied that he had seen it. NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ ha llizard aka ejm cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca _/ |ha ,^%--- |_____| ha_<_ \ Why do you even care if your e-mail --- == >/ address is correct if nobody can e-mail you? [_____] __>,^ ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: >Colin, Colin, Colin! If I could e-mail this to you, I would. I just >e-mailed Naughty and I'm pretty sure it went through. You have to REMOVE >the "no2spam." from Naughty's address before sending e-mail to him. > (You did do that, right?) Nope...I just used the on-line TIN newsreader which has the 'R' option for "Reply to poster" and does not require messing around with spamblocked addresses...just type 'R' and press Enter and bingo off goes the message...then I just type 'F' for "Followup" and TIN posts the same message publicly in the newsgroup as well. Whoopdedoo! magically simple eh? None of this stuffing around with unmungeing email addresses. I can't be bothered with mungeing...if messages bounce then they bounce...end of story. Hah! Oh well, I hope someone in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent newsgroup is as kind and emails replies to any questions Naughty might ask in that newsgroup. where are the postings... \ dunno, just can't see any \ here or in my email ____ ____ / <---- = =\\\ o o\\\ /< c /< c ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | .__________________. | _\ | | | \ /_________________ /| //\____| | //\_| | | .--------------. | | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| | | | | | / / _) / / /( | | | | | / / / / / \ )_ | | | | | ( ( < ( ( < \\ | |______________| | | \ \ \ \ \ \ |__________________|/' \ \ | \ \ | / \ \ \_\____\ \_\____\ _____|__________|_|___ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/| ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ /' /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/__/ Bye,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: [snip] > > > where are the postings... > \ dunno, just can't see any > \ here or in my email > ____ ____ / > <---- = =\\\ o o\\\ > /< c /< c > ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ > /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ > \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ > /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | > .__________________. | _\ | | | \ > /_________________ /| //\____| | //\_| | > | .--------------. | | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| > | | | | | / / _) / / /( > | | | | | / / / / / \ )_ > | | | | | ( ( < ( ( < \\ > | |______________| | | \ \ \ \ \ \ > |__________________|/' \ \ | \ \ | > / \ \ \_\____\ \_\____\ > _____|__________|_|___ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ > /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/| ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger > -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ /' > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/__/ > > Bye, Bwhaaaaaaaahahahaha ha ah ha ha! :D -- ----- `,---------------------------------------------- ,\, # joris bellenger (b'ger) |/ ? e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl ----| ~ )\--------------------------------------------- /__/\ \____ / \_/ \ ascii-art gallery at: / <_ ____,_ \ ????????????????????????????????????? --/___/_____ \---------------------------------------- \/| Big Browser Is Watching You
In article <35d...@news.southern.co.nz>, cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite) wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:57:03 -0400, llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: > > > ha > > ^^^^%--- ha > > " \ ha You slay me, Colin. > > > I e-mailed him with no difficulty at all (it couldn't have been simpler > > Oh yes it could...you missed the point!...I wasn't emailing, I was > posting a message using the TIN newsreader...but if you are not > familiar with TIN's R and F commands you probably would not > understand my point. [snip] > Bye, No Colin; I think you have missed the point. By commanding your TIN newsreader to reply via e-mail, you are indeed e-mailing. But there's really no point in arguing. You probably are incapable of understanding my point. NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca _/ | ,^%--- llizard aka ejm |_____| __<_ \ bye bye! --- == >/ [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII & gif anima+ions ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:43:18 +0200, sandra van zanten <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > >Colin Douthwaite wrote: > >[snip] > >> >> >> where are the postings... >> \ dunno, just can't see any >> \ here or in my email >> ____ ____ / >> <---- = =\\\ o o\\\ >> /< c /< c >> ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ >> /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ >> \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ >> /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | >> .__________________. | _\ | | | \ >> /_________________ /| //\____| | //\_| | >> | .--------------. | | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| >> | | | | | / / _) / / /( >> | | | | | / / / / / \ )_ >> | | | | | ( ( < ( ( < \\ >> | |______________| | | \ \ \ \ \ \ >> |__________________|/' \ \ | \ \ | >> / \ \ \_\____\ \_\____\ >> _____|__________|_|___ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ >> /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/| ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger >> -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ /' >> /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/__/ >> >> Bye, > >Bwhaaaaaaaahahahaha ha ah ha ha! >:D Yeah, that picture of yours Joris is a classic. They say every picture tells a story but your "Nosee" picture is so useful because it can be easily adapted to tell many stories. It's a classic. I tend to like pictures which contain a message or make a point. Bye,
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:57:03 -0400, llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: > ha > ^^^^%--- ha > " \ ha You slay me, Colin. > I e-mailed him with no difficulty at all (it couldn't have been simpler Oh yes it could...you missed the point!...I wasn't emailing, I was posting a message using the TIN newsreader...but if you are not familiar with TIN's R and F commands you probably would not understand my point. Whatever...I'm relieved you can still laugh after being slain. What will you be in your new reincarnation? I know...A Owl. HooHooHoo! :-) +-------------+--------------+-------------------------------+ | o o o o | <o o> | Just because we disagree | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | doesn't mean I have to kill | | |||||| || | /> <\ | you, unless I want to. | +-------------+--------------+-------------------------------+ Bye,
llizard wrote: > In article <35d...@news.southern.co.nz>, cfb...@southern.co.nz > (Colin Douthwaite) wrote: > > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:57:03 -0400, llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote: > > > > > ha > > > ^^^^%--- ha > > > " \ ha You slay me, Colin. > > > > > I e-mailed him with no difficulty at all (it couldn't have been simpler > > > > Oh yes it could...you missed the point!...I wasn't emailing, I was > > posting a message using the TIN newsreader...but if you are not > > familiar with TIN's R and F commands you probably would not > > understand my point. > [snip] > > Bye, > > No Colin; I think you have missed the point. By commanding your TIN > newsreader to reply via e-mail, you are indeed e-mailing. But there's > really no point in arguing. You probably are incapable of understanding > my point. > > NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you > see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e" > to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. > -- > ___ cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca > _/ | ,^%--- llizard aka ejm > |_____| __<_ \ bye bye! > --- == >/ > [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+, ASCII & gif anima+ions > ejm| | //| | www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/ ______________________________________ | | | You just can't understand my point | |______________________________________| / \ ' ' _________ _________ _| .| |// \\| |. |_ |:| .| -\ ) ( /- |. |:| \| .|__// \\__|. |/ |_________|--' '--|_________| __|___|__ __|___|__ ____[_________]_______________[_________]___b'ger do you see her/his point?... \ nahhhh, nope, nada! ____ ____ / <---- = =\\\ o o\\\ /< c /< c ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | | _\ | | | \ //\____| | //\_| | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| / / _) / / /( / / / / / \ )_ ( ( < ( ( < \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ | \ \ | \_\____\ \_\____\ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger Ha Llizard & Colin, sorry about that...<evil laugh> Bwaaaaaaahhhhhhhahahahahaha -- ----- `,---------------------------------------------- ,\, # joris bellenger (b'ger) |/ ? e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl ----| ~ )\--------------------------------------------- /__/\ \____ / \_/ \ ascii-art gallery at: / <_ ____,_ \ http://?????????????????????????????? --/___/_____ \---------------------------------------- \/| Big Browser Is Watching You
Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote: > Can anyone e-mail you? No. Even if they're really clever? No. Yes actually they can if they are really determined to do so, several people have done so quite recently. > I disagree. For example, Joris e-mailed me the other day to ask my > permission for him to include some of the a.a-a FAQ on his Web site. > Would that have been appropriate to post to a.a-a? No, because it > was a private matter between the two of us, and it would have been > quite boring to everyone else. So he unmunged my address, and e- > mailed me. Simple. People who want to communicate with you > privately have no such option. That's OK, as I've already said...my anti-spam method for email is very anti-social. Timo Salmi uses something similar and only authenticates certain people to email him. Freedom to email other users is a two-edged sword. I have had some quite unpleasant unsolicited email in the past from users responding privately to something I have written in public newsgroup discussion...usually an RFD/CFV debate which can become very heated. I post a lot to many newsgroups and readers hit their "Reply to Sender" buttons with monotonous regularity. What really used to irritate me was those who both email you and post publicly the same message and do not tell you they have done it. Grrrrr. I could, but do not, complain to ISPs about private email received, as many users do. Frankly, I do not want to receive such unsolicited email in the first place. Each user has to choose their anti-spam methods for both email spam and newsgroup spam. Last year my junkmail had exceeded 150 per month and seemed to be rapidly rising so I made my choice of action. I also choose not to try to email to munged email addresses. If you disagree with my choice then it is your privilege to disagree. If you choose to use a munged email address that is also your privilege it is widespread practice these days. My choice is not to email people with munged addresses. +-------------+--------------+-------------------------------+ | o o o o | <o o> | Just because we disagree | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | doesn't mean I have to kill | | |||||| || | /> <\ | you, unless I want to. | +-------------+--------------+-------------------------------+ Bye,
joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > ______________________________________ > | | > | You just can't understand my point | > |______________________________________| > / \ > ' ' > _________ _________ > _| .| |// \\| |. |_ > |:| .| -\ ) ( /- |. |:| > \| .|__// \\__|. |/ > |_________|--' '--|_________| > __|___|__ __|___|__ > ____[_________]_______________[_________]___b'ger > do you see her/his point?... > \ nahhhh, nope, nada! > ____ ____ / > <---- = =\\\ o o\\\ > /< c /< c > ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ > /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ > \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ > /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | > | _\ | | | \ > //\____| | //\_| | > /-,---/ |/-,--|__| > / / _) / / /( > / / / / / \ )_ > ( ( < ( ( < \\ > \ \ \ \ \ \ > \ \ | \ \ | > \_\____\ \_\____\ > ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ > ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger >Ha Llizard & Colin, sorry about that...<evil laugh> >Bwaaaaaaahhhhhhhahahahahaha do you see her/his point?... \ nahhhh, nope, nada! ____ ____ / <---- = =\\\ = =\\\ /< c /< c ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | | _\ | | | \ //\____| | //\_| | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| / / _) / / /( / / / / / \ )_ ( ( < ( ( < \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ | \ \ | \_\____\ \_\____\ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger " There's none so blind as those who cannot see." Historically, Llizard and I have long disagreed on munged email addresses. She tells me off for refusing to fix up people's munged addresses and I tell her off for requiring me to take the trouble to do so. However, both of us are anti-spam. My own anti-spam measure is very anti-social...my public address is spamblocked so that you can't email me. Normally I don't want to email anyone...I say what I have to say in public in the newsgroups and I have no particular wish for people to email me about what I have written publicly. I have now wish to engage in email exchanges which may, or may not, prove acrimonious. If something cannot be said in public then it's probably best left unsaid. So...if I do happen to use the TIN newsreader's 'R' command ( reply to poster ) and it bounces...that's it...end of story I simply cannot be bothered unmunging munged mail addresses...it's not the end of the world if people do not see my responses. do you see her/his point?... \ Yeah! See it my way! / + + + ____ [#[O]#] <---- = =\\\ = o\\\ /< c /< c ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | | _\ | | | \ //\____| | //\_| | /-,---/ |/-,--|__| / / _) / / /( / / / / / \ )_ ( ( < ( ( < \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ | \ \ | \_\____\ \_\____\ ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger " In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is King. " So...be reasonable...see it my way. :-) Bye,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: >... > My own anti-spam measure is very anti-social...my public address > is spamblocked so that you can't email me. Ok Colin, let's do a little comparison. llizard's address, like mine, is munged to prevent spammers. Can somebody e-mail us? Yes, if they have an IQ of about 95 or above (which rules out idiots as well as spam-bots). Now, you don't munge your e-mail address, but it is spam-blocked. Can anyone e-mail you? No. Even if they're really clever? No. > Normally I don't want to email anyone...I say what I have to say in > public in the newsgroups and I have no particular wish for people to > email me about what I have written publicly. I have now wish to > engage in email exchanges which may, or may not, prove acrimonious. > If something cannot be said in public then it's probably best left > unsaid. I disagree. For example, Joris e-mailed me the other day to ask my permission for him to include some of the a.a-a FAQ on his Web site. Would that have been appropriate to post to a.a-a? No, because it was a private matter between the two of us, and it would have been quite boring to everyone else. So he unmunged my address, and e-mailed me. Simple. People who want to communicate with you privately have no such option. -- .._o Matthew Thomas (mpt26 @ student . canterbury . ac . nz) ..://\/ http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/ (Site for sore eyes) ..:_/\ ASCII ART FAQ: http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/art/ascii/ ..:/ Linux. Because life is too short to reboot.
.----- On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 01:27:21 +1200, Matthew Thomas posted:
|
|Ok Colin, let's do a little comparison. llizard's address, like mine, is
|munged to prevent spammers. Can somebody e-mail us? Yes, if they have an
|IQ of about 95 or above (which rules out idiots as well as spam-bots).
|Now, you don't munge your e-mail address, but it is spam-blocked. Can
|anyone e-mail you? No. Even if they're really clever? No.
|
|> Normally I don't want to email anyone...I say what I have to say in
|> public in the newsgroups and I have no particular wish for people to
|> email me about what I have written publicly. I have now wish to
|> engage in email exchanges which may, or may not, prove acrimonious.
|> If something cannot be said in public then it's probably best left
|> unsaid.
|
|I disagree. For example, Joris e-mailed me the other day to ask my
|permission for him to include some of the a.a-a FAQ on his Web site.
|Would that have been appropriate to post to a.a-a? No, because it was a
|private matter between the two of us, and it would have been quite
|boring to everyone else. So he unmunged my address, and e-mailed me.
|Simple. People who want to communicate with you privately have no such
|option.
|
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I agree fully with you Matthew. Unmunging of addresses is an easy task and
mungung is an effective way of stopping spamming (unless you have used the
raw, unmunged addy in the past). It is very useful sometimes to be able to
contact an ascii artist privatly, for congrats, permissions or even to say
'hi, how are you!' and other general messages just not appropriate to the
entirety of the group.
Although it`s not in my sig any more that my reply addy it ROT13`d, it`s
fairly obvious that it`s not a valid address. It takes someone with a
slightly better IQ to figure that one, but once you read my sig it`s pretty
obvious what my address is, unless you try to email
mar...@bigfoot.com ... that of course is silly! :o)
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Colin Douthwaite wrote: [snip] > > > Historically, Llizard and I have long disagreed on munged email > addresses. Since the two of you can't communicate privatly and therefore do your wash in the newsgroup, I think everyone here knows about your disagrement. No need to explain it to me. > > > She tells me off for refusing to fix up people's munged addresses > and I tell her off for requiring me to take the trouble to do so. > However, both of us are anti-spam. > > My own anti-spam measure is very anti-social...my public address > is spamblocked so that you can't email me. > > Normally I don't want to email anyone...I say what I have to say in > public in the newsgroups and I have no particular wish for people to > email me about what I have written publicly. I have now wish to > engage in email exchanges which may, or may not, prove acrimonious. > If something cannot be said in public then it's probably best left > unsaid. > > So...if I do happen to use the TIN newsreader's 'R' command ( reply > to poster ) and it bounces...that's it...end of story I simply > cannot be bothered unmunging munged mail addresses...it's not the end > of the world if people do not see my responses. > > do you see her/his point?... > \ Yeah! See it my way! > / > + + + > ____ [#[O]#] > <---- = =\\\ = o\\\ > /< c /< c > ___ _______/__D_/'_ /__,_/\___ > /(- /(\_\________ \ '\_/ \ > \ ) \ )_ \o \ | o \ > /|\ /|\ |' | | |' | | > | _\ | | | \ > //\____| | //\_| | > /-,---/ |/-,--|__| > / / _) / / /( > / / / / / \ )_ > ( ( < ( ( < \\ > \ \ \ \ \ \ > \ \ | \ \ | > \_\____\ \_\____\ > ___\_\_\ ___\_\_\ > ((((,,,,o) ((((,,,,o) . .. b'ger > > " In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is King. " > > So...be reasonable...see it my way. :-) > > Bye, I usually don't interfere in this kind of discussions (see? I am a reasonable guy) but the: "you can't see my point" from both sides really amused me (still is): tha'ts all. My waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! / `, = = # |/ ? | ) )\ /__/\ \____ ,- / \_/ \ |/| / < _____ _> \ -|.|--/___/ ,___/___\--------- '-' |\/ b'ger It's a shame I havent got blue eyes. -- ,___, /(6 6)\_ /\` ' `'\\_ \\\_''''|\\\ joris bellenger (b'ger) )\\\\''//||/ svz...@xs4all.nl --/////""------ascii-art gallery at:---------------- http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html
joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >[snip] >> >> >> Historically, Llizard and I have long disagreed on munged email >> addresses. >Since the two of you can't communicate privatly and therefore do your >wash in the newsgroup, I think everyone here knows about your >disagrement. No need to explain it to me. You make the very valid point that public flamewars between individuals is never entertaining for very long once the original spectacle loses its novelty. I will try to remember that although it is often difficult when something apparently interminable starts appearing in a newsgroup and nobody challenges it or calls a halt. Historically, squabbles have always been a part of alt.ascii-art and were prime causes of the move to create the moderated newsgroup rec.arts.ascii...which didn't solve the problems either! [...snip...] > My waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! > / > `, > = = # > |/ ? > | ) )\ > /__/\ \____ > ,- / \_/ \ > |/| / < _____ _> \ > -|.|--/___/ ,___/___\--------- > '-' |\/ b'ger > It's a shame I havent got blue eyes. Great song, one of my favourites, because I can identify with many of the lyrics... " For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself then he has not, to say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels, the record shows I took the blows and did it my way! " Sing along folks! :-) Actually Sinatra didn't like that song very much although he made it a best seller. The world doesn't seem quite the same without Old Blue Eyes. Anyone got an ascii-fied GIF of him to go with "Der Bingle"? The old crooner himself: QB" . . ....^FBQQBQBQ #^ ..../,, ,/yyBQBDBt`"B B" ._L_yQ&Qy&&QQBQQDlL;S; (Q B^ /DQQQBQQQQQQBQBDQQD1: "B Q~ ,GQBDQDQQQQQQBBQQDQ&EC 7B D lQQQQQBQBQQQQQQQQBBID(' { E .iDDBQQBQQQQBBBQBQQDQ1!: ( 3 .(BQBBQBBQQQQBBQBBBDBS' } I'm Q '~~FMMBQQBBQBMMBBSBD1EL. Q dreaming Q LuL `7QBBB?../LL;.!JDL Q of a " , ,__&L.DBBEEL1L_,'EylEE! ,U white 1 :s&yyQQQ6-DQBBQ&QQQQQQQBJY! lyB1Q Christmas. S ?DDQQBD'.QQBDQDBQBQQQDD1< LIQDG Q j8BQE2 LQQBE9EBBEBQQES{! /BQSE Q_ 'TS7L <#P~^,G1?TXC3({! 3PEy Q, ,_>'.,___yBD1DU;,'(''' yQ L "Qy, 'IIIZl',L/&;!;: LQ Q; FD( (`IE2L/QDB&lY! 6Q Q, (/. `!?"21iQDU&/~ L FB Q_ (EL/&&QDBQBDJ" ,y^ `FB Qy 75EEBBQESf` _yB^ "M Q7 `'^""~` _yQQM' `"FQ F; _yQQQQF Q Bye,
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